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Offline ChrisSmolinski

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I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« on: September 08, 2014, 1338 UTC »
While I've been getting fairly good results with my sloping folded dipole antenna for listening to Europirates, I wanted something with a bit more directionality.

I've known about Beverage antennas for decades, but never used one. I did some reading online about them, I will say, there is a lot of contradictory information.

In a nutshell, a Beverage antenna is a long wire antenna, terminated at the far end. Some authors say you should slope the wire down to the ground at each end, others say to keep it at a constant height, then use a vertical piece of wire at each end. Half say that the wire should be something lossy like electric fence wire, the others say to use coper wire. You want to install it over a poor ground, except for the authors that say you want a good ground. The value of the terminating resistor is critical, except when it isn't. And everyone has a different opinion over how long it should be. You get the idea, the usual situation with ham radio antennas.

I decided that putting up something would be better than procrastinating while sorting out all the details, so I looked around to see what materials I had. I found some antenna wire, but no pieces long enough for the entire run, so I ended up splicing together 4 pieces of different wire.  I had a path in the yard that was a little over 200 ft long in the correct direction. Going further would mean hacking a path through brush and possibly poison ivy, so I decided that would be long enough for now. It's 1.25 wavelengths long for the 48 meter band, which according to much of what I read should be long enough for reasonable directionality.   The bearing is 50 degrees, which according to a great circle map is what I want to hit Europe (or more precisely get hit by radio waves from Europe).

I bought a pair of 8 ft ground rods and clamps for each end of the antenna. I was dreading pounding them into the ground. Some online reading brought up an interesting suggestion. Fill a soda bottle with water. Push the ground rod into the ground. Then drizzle water down the rod so it goes into the ground. Push the rod some more. Lather, rinse, repeat. Guess what? It works! I was able to get each rod most of the way into the ground this way. I eventually hit some rocks, making hammering necessary, but it was much easier than I thought it would be.

I decided to keep the Beverage roughly uniform in height the entire length, then drop a wire vertically at each end. The antenna runs in a section of the yard with some trees, so I support it with rope attached to branches every so often. It is not completely level, but hopefully close enough.

The far end of the Beverage has a termination resistor. Supposedly the ideal method is to use a SWR meter, transmit at low power, and vary the termination resistance until you have a uniformly high (flat) SWR over all bands of interest. I decided to just go with a value of about 450 ohms, since I had some resistors to get to that value. From what I read, you do want to use power resistors (non inductive of course) since nearby lightning can induce current in the wire, burning out smaller resistors. I cobbled together some resistors in parallel to get to about 450 ohms.

Since the impedance of the Beverage is high (about 450 ohms) you want a matching transformer. I have quite a few cores in the junkbox, but of course no idea what composition any of them are. There's apparently an international law prohibiting marking ferrite and iron cores with a part number.  I selected what I thought was an appropriate core, wound  a transformer, and connected it to the antenna and some RG-6 coax (I use RG-6 now for all my antenna runs, because it is easy to find and inexpensive). While I got signals from the antenna, the performance was not really that good. Suspecting the problem was the transformer, I looked around some more, and found a balun, either 4:1 or 9:1. (While it was marked, the number had long since worn off)  I substituted that for the matching transformer, and voila! success.

In the afternoon, I was picking up audio from CBC on 6160 kHz. There was nothing at all on the sky loop, and occasionally a carrier would pop up with the dipole, but that was about it.  I did notice a lot of RFI pickup, then realized that because I was using the antenna with the SDR-14 (powered with an AC adapter) plugged into a laptop, the coax shield was not grounded. I grounded it in the shack, and the RFI went away. Further comparisons later in the evening, once some Europirates were coming in, showed better reception with the Beverage. The overall signal levels are lower, as expected, but the noise levels are much lower.

There's two potential things I can still do. First (and easiest) is the matching transformer, to see if something else will work better than the balun. Second (and much more work) is to hack a path through the brush to extend the Beverage out to about 2 wavelengths or more (which also would improve reception on lower frequencies).  But even without either of those changes,  I think I have an improved antenna for Europirate reception. And just in time for the Fall/Winter DX season.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 1342 UTC by ChrisSmolinski »
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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 1449 UTC »
Hi! Good post. Please let me add a line or two about my experiences.

Some authors say you should slope the wire down to the ground at each end, others say to keep it at a constant height, then use a vertical piece of wire at each end.

Often in literature they recycle old plans without a bit of thinking. With luck the author who is writing about antennas has never even tried them. I have got an impression that the setup where there is a vertical piece of wire in the end to the resistor and grounding is more like an illustration of principle than a real schema. In practical situations I have often simply pulled the wire to the ground in an angle of 45 degrees or something close to that after the last branch of last available tree and I haven't even given a thought for that. In fact often I have even turned the end of wire around the tree two or three turns to make sure I am not losing the end of wire from my fingers. Of course this is strictly against all the principles, because now we have a coil in the end of wire, but in -20 C conditions some compromises might be allowed.  ;D

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Half say that the wire should be something lossy like electric fence wire, the others say to use coper wire.

Warning: You don't want to use regular plastic coated wire in -30 C. The plastic frozes and peels away as soon as you are going to roll it. I have ruined some potentially pretty good wires this way. Thick flexible plastic coating or enamel is ok. (Dad, what they mean by extreme conditions?)

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Fill a soda bottle with water. Push the ground rod into the ground. Then drizzle water down the rod so it goes into the ground. Push the rod some more. Lather, rinse, repeat. Guess what? It works!

Fantastic!

They also say that if conductivity of soil is low, one could apply a kilo or so salt into the hole. On the coast a metal wire fish trap in sea should do the same. My personal ultimate solution, that worked great for a while while listening to Indonesians on 90 metres was to hammer a copper nail into a big tree. After some time it stopped working well. I guess I should have pulled nail away and hammer it in a new fresher place. Copper nail doesn't harm trees too much.

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Suspecting the problem was the transformer, I looked around some more, and found a balun, either 4:1 or 9:1. (While it was marked, the number had long since worn off)  I substituted that for the matching transformer, and voila! success.

I never had matching problems while using trad comm receivers. MW band is so wide that one can't really seriously match an antenna there anyway. The problems began, surprise surprise, immediately with Perseus. Even a portable Grundig brought better signal from Radio Merkurs than Perseus with 500 metres wire. Raw wire into plug didn't work at all and Perseus doesn't have any hi-Z input.

It was unexpectable to me. For the first time in my life I was using a receiver that absolutely requires matching. 9:1 turns over ferrite core with least loss on MW (I have the comparison chart here somewhere) did the thing.

One can also ponder, whether a termination and grounding is necessary. Case study: 50 degrees 600 m long wire to Japan. Excellent tool to listen to 1413 JOIF almost daily during winter time. I might ground it if I like, but then I would lose back beam, and the back beam of 50 degrees points almost exactly towards Netherlands and offers many MW dutches after dark. Back beam towards powerful Europeans does not matter while listening to Japanese, because at Japan listening time it is afternoon here, and most euros are in sunlight. Even in late evening, if conditions allow, dominant Far East stations like HLAZ and JOIF can boom at S9+dB over the weak euros on their frequencies.

NA beverage on the other hand, is a real terminated beverage. I don't want strong Russians to block weak American signals in morning. Terminated beverage doesn't magically wipe away the interference from opposite direction, but it helps, sometimes more, sometimes less.

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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 1632 UTC »
I used that water trick when driving metal fence posts as a teen. If it works in our sticky red dog clay, it will work anywhere. (Except on solid rock or Al Fansome's unusually round head.)

A lot of the terminated beverages you read about in antenna manuals and ham mags are for transmitting. The resistor wattages recommended can be pure overkill for listening.

Our man in Finland has some solid advice, listen to him.

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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 2129 UTC »
Chris,

If you want to make your own 9:1 Beverage transformers, have a good look at this page: http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html

The best way to make them is with BN73-202 Binocular toroids [Fair Rite 28730000202] which cost ~$0.25/ea

http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html#Beverage_Antenna_Transformers <--- gives you Primary/Secondary ratios from 1:1 to 16:1

You can also calculate all the values, including wire length, at http://toroids.info/BN-73-202.php

The boxes cost more than the transformers but I have an end cost under $20/ea

Here's how they look & I actually bought 100 cores back to years ago... Finally making the boxes means it's going to be a great listening season!  ;)

Hope this helps!

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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2014, 1920 UTC »
Rafman,

Thanks for the info!

One question, have you found it important to keep the height of the beverage uniform over the entire length? Mine is made with stranded copper wire that is supported overhead from branches every so often, so there are several sags in it.
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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2014, 1940 UTC »
I don't think sags are a problem.

I have several books that contain sections describing these antennas including "The ARRL Antenna BooK", ON4UN's "Low Band DXing" and one source specific to beverages "The Beverage Antenna Handbook" by Victor A. Misek
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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2014, 2024 UTC »
I've used beverages on the ground (BOG) for years at the farm. They work well and don't seem to pick up as much noise from the electric fences the local cattle farms use.

As for the poison ivy, when you're done hacking through it, dump your clothes in the washer, then immediately take a shower using dish washing liquid, which is a detergent. It will lift the urushiol, (the oil that causes the rash) off of your skin and send it down the drain where it belongs. Soap and water won't cut it with urushiol, they just spread it around your body.

BTW, never burn poison ivy and it's relatives. If the wind shifts and you inhale the smoke, you get to go to the hospital. If you're hypersensitive to the stuff and you inhale it, you could be dead before the ambulance gets there.

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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2014, 2136 UTC »
Pigmeat,

My general procedure with Poison Ivy is to spray heavily with Roundup, then wait a year :-)
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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2014, 0405 UTC »
That's what I used to do, but my wife has gone all nature friendly.

Personally, I'm an Agent Orange man, but if I want clean underwear and cooked food, I've got to play along.

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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2014, 0526 UTC »
Chris,

In my experience, it doesn't really matter & if it does, I never noticed it. When I ran the 2000'+, it was impossible to keep it flat since my property has several deep valleys on it. All I did was be sure to keep the minimum distance above ground at insulator locations. It wasn't even in a perfectly straight line either but it strolled when I could hear Morocco on 172KHz during late afternoon daylight!!!

Pigmeat,

You utter the words of a Wise Man. We all must make deals with the ummm "Angels" but the examples you cite lead me to a thought.
Perhaps these are the reasons Cave Men ate raw meat & wore Loin Cloths???  ;)

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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 1519 UTC »
Beverages are pretty amazing when installed properly. Several hams in this area use them on 160 in the winter. The farmers who own adjoining fields let them put the Beverages up in their fields. One ham uses as many as seven, aimed in different directions. In a contest a couple years ago I was hearing stations on the Beverages that I couldn't hear a peep from on a gamma-matched tower being used as a vertical on 160.
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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 1526 UTC »
I've been using it the last two days on 11m (yeah, I know, a beverage on 11m??) to listen to UK CBers. And it's working very well. I'm hearing stuff that isn't even a trace on the other antennas.
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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 1736 UTC »
I'm not surprised at all. Best reception I have had with Irish church/parish radios on 27 MHz was with 500 metres long beverage as an antenna.

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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 1910 UTC »
I'm not surprised at all. Best reception I have had with Irish church/parish radios on 27 MHz was with 500 metres long beverage as an antenna.

Good to hear! That is exactly what I am going to be doing with it this fall.
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Re: I finally put up a Beverage antenna
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2014, 2341 UTC »
   Another well-known practitioner of beverage antennas is Charles Rauch, W8JI.  I don't think he's published a book like the other guys I mentioned but he does have some on-line info at:

   http://www.w8ji.com/beverages.htm

   Includes comments about some of the points you brought up...

   An interface designed by him is available at:

   http://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-bfs-1
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