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Ray Lalleu:
This is a forum about what is going on in Europe,
mainly about pirate radio, but not exclusively.

There are other good sites and blogs with the same target,
(I'm currently looking at those from ukdxer, Achim,  JBK, Irish Paul, LHU, Toutatis, Rick)
but no one has a strict rule to exclude news not from pirate stations,
and they are regularly listing stations said to be legal and licenced in some country.

The real difference in Europe is not to know if a station is pirate or legal, but if it is a private station or a station backed by a government or a powerful religious or commercial group. That difference is quite evident. The difference between the small stations, pirate or legal, are not that evident. Many are in the grey line, using legal or pirate relays (sometimes even in parallel),   and often it is impossible to know when a station is going legal, or going back to illegal. Even some licenced stations (or said so) seem to jump to unlicenced frequencies, or relaying unlicenced stations. Also many legal stations have their roots in pirate days and in the offshore era. And Europe is divided in many countries, each one with its own rules. Some stations in Ireland are broadcasting everyday for more than 20 years without a due licence and have never been sued, are they 'pirates' ? Each country has its own politics about sueing or not sueing the stations in the forgotten places of the radio spectrum.

So I don't want this forum being ruled by 'pirater than thou' !
This site is for listeners.

The stricter rules on this forum are the following :
- it's about Europe (so far the nearby regions of Northern Africa and Middle East are not really excluded, but there is absolutely nothing to say about those regions)
- it's about fresh loggings from the airwaves
- it's about 'broad'casting (one to many)
- the news must be as accurate as possible
- the subject lines must follow the format rule
- the BIG government, religious and commercial voices are moved to Shortwave Broadcasting

A separate board has been created for the many European pirates that operate in and above the mediumwave band (European MW Pirate Radio). These stations almost exclusively target a domestic audience only and come from different countries than most shortwave pirates, they are very distinct. Please log all such stations as well as the Russian/Ukrainian stations on 3 MHz in that board.

Misti-Radio:
Good evening Ray.
 a Question: No more reports for MW stations here ???

Greetings,
Misti-Radio
John

Ray Lalleu:

--- Quote from: Misti-Radio on June 21, 2022, 1727 UTC ---Good evening Ray.
 a Question: No more reports for MW stations here ???

Greetings,
Misti-Radio
John

--- End quote ---
I think MW (and MW-Xtended) stations should go on here, but preferably when they can be heard in foreign countries, because this is an international forum. Just common sense and looking what can get replies ! (I use Twente SDR because my MW antenna is still not repaired, but I try to widen the target to listeners in all Europe - and I have no time to listen to everything). So go on, but it's better on evenings, it's better if the station does a good job about music, and it's better if the station is speaking too. If only any station could be half as good as Misti Radio !

kris:
  MW FB stations tend to be mainly oriented towards local or only national audiences, broadcast mostly "national" music and speak the national language. This makes them boring for foreign listeners. They are not as popular as on the American continent, where English or Spanish are the natural environment in a large area.
   With poor HF propagation I sometimes listen to MW, which is broadcast by not only Dutch but also Greek and Serbian stations and I have a dilemma where to describe it!
   In my youth, gray and technically poor, it was music on MW waves that fascinated us and built interest in radio technque. Check out the interesting memories of Radio Luxembourg here!
   http://www.eastend-memories.org/radio/luxembourg3.htm
Let's give this forum a chance for a new radio Two - Oh - Eight!
Can we agree on the principle that, for the sake of order, entries regarding European FB MW stations will be posted in the MW Free Radio thread along with the American ones?
 At most, due to lack of interest, they will die a "natural death". :'(

ChrisSmolinski:
I've renamed this board to better reflect the types of stations logged here.


--- Quote from: kris on June 21, 2022, 2112 UTC ---Can we agree on the principle that, for the sake of order, entries regarding European FB MW stations will be posted in the MW Free Radio thread along with the American ones?
 At most, due to lack of interest, they will die a "natural death". :'(

--- End quote ---

I've also considered creating a second board specifically for European MW pirates, so that we have two, with the other for North American MW pirates. 

The advantage to this is that it keeps logs of these two groups of pirates separate, as they are only rarely heard on the other side of the pond.

A possible disadvantage is both would be relatively low traffic boards, although we have several of those now on the HFU and does not not seem to be a major hardship  ;D
Thoughts?

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