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Loggings => Other => Topic started by: 07code04stalker1776 on March 15, 2013, 0014 UTC
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I was tuning in tonight and just listened in to what I think was a fast forward music station on 16160. It went off just now at 0000z. Can any one confirm? It was on for quite some time so maybe tomorrow we can cross check it.
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Found this:
"pirate radio stations do this as well. i think they do this so they can fit more tunes in when there in the mix." - Clacton Crew on date 06-09-2004
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=152833
seems valid I think.
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In that post they are talking about commercial stations very slightly speeding up a song to make it fit a time slot. Most of the time when this is done it is almost unnoticeable. Someone mentions pirate stations doing it also, personally I have never heard an HF pirate do it other than as a bit/skit.
If you had a recording it might help a bit to narrow down what is going on. Was this music twice as fast as normal? 50% faster? etc
Also, since your profile does not have a location it might help if you tell people in such a post where you are, that can give folks an idea if they might have a chance to hear the same station you heard. If you are using a remote to hear this mention the location of the remote.
T!
(edit) OK, a possible answer here. Have you ever heard the Firedrake Chinese jammer? Portions of its program can sound "speeded up".
What is scheduled on that freq (16160 kHz) and that time is Sound of Hope out of Taiwan, in Chinese. Mainland China does not like this station and generally jams it using either CHR1 or Firedrake. Firedrake almost always stops at the top of the hour. It generally stays off for 5 to 25 minutes before coming back to jam. I believe that during this time they are confirming that the program they want to jam is on the target frequency, what is called "listen time" in some jamming applications.
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Sounds like this somewhat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_xWyR0BANE
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Here is my recording from Washington D.C. last night. Its a little loud.
https://soundcloud.com/search?q=16160%2003-14-2013
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That sounds a lot like a sped up Firedrake...
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Yeah i'm looking at samples online and that is the impression i'm getting. Buy why would it be sped up?
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Chris has it right... I took a clip from the on-line recording posted above and played it about 75% speed and it sounds like our old friend.
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On right now 16100. Cant tell if its normal fire drake or sped up.
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16100 is the normal old Firedrake, as are the other 13 frequencies I can find it on right now.
Not sure why it was speeded up in your example, in many, many, hours of hearing this jammer I have never heard it do that. I would assume that it was a technical error.
T!
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16100 is the normal old Firedrake, as are the other 13 frequencies I can find it on right now.
Not sure why it was speeded up in your example, in many, many, hours of hearing this jammer I have never heard it do that. I would assume that it was a technical error.
T!
Egads! Pedro has gone to work for the Chinese!
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OK. I have it again. I think it started out normal for the first few min and then something might have happened to it. I'll post up my full recording from 2320z including my scanning so you guy can see its nothing on my end. This might be something to look out for.
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Here it is:
https://soundcloud.com/search?q=16100%2003-15-2013
Note: Starts around 04 Min 46 Seconds and gets faster around 06 Min and 08 Seconds.
Let me know what you guys think. I had changed modes a few times to here it better because its kind of weak.
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But do you still hear it fast? Was it fast for only a few minutes, or did it stay fast from then on?
T!
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Once its fast it stays on fast.
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Firedrake plays music of several different tempos throughout its 60 minute program, some of them are very fast. I believe you are hearing a normal speed change in tempo. Why do I say that? Because I started listening to 16100 about 0140z, and from that time to the time it went off air at 0159:59z and I heard nothing uncommon for Firedrake. Yes, it was fast, but it was its normal fast pitched drums / pipes. At 0157:05 it did its normal change and went back to slower paced music, no change in recording speed, just a tempo change in the music.
Watch it for a few days, I bet you will see it "speed up" every day, but this is not a sped up recording, jsut a normal shift in tempo for the program.
T!
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Do you know of a list of the known frequencies that it might be on?
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They are a jammer and they respond to their targets. This means they change frequencies often. Typically the are jamming staitons like Sound of Hope Chinese service. If you find a listing for that station you can predict when you have a good chance of hearing Firedrake.
Also remember that many times Firedrake does not come on until 5 to 25 minutes after the hour, so your best bet to hear them is from 30 minutes after the hour until the top of the next hour, when most Firedrake outlets go off air. Some Firedrake outlets do stay on through the top of the hour and do not break, but that is a minority of them.
Example, right this minute (1450z) Firedrake is up 15870, 15800, 14750, and 13130 kHz (and probably many more freqs, those are just what I saw quickly), but they will be off air in a few minutes.
T!
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1450z (probably until 1500z) 15870, 15800, 14750, and 13130 kHz.
1540z (probably until 1600z) I only see it on 2 freqs, 11970 and 9955 kHz.
2350z (probably until 0000z) I see it on 18180, 17170, 16920, 15800, 15550, 14980, 13920, and 13850 kHz.
2335z (probably until 0000z) Different day from above listing. 17300, 16920, 16100, 15970, 15800, 14700, 14400, 13970, 13130, and 12670 kHz
0025z (probably until 0100z) I see it on 18250, 17645, 17300, 17250, 17170, 16920, 16100, 15385, 14750, 13850, 13530, and 11500 kHz.
0125z (probably until 0200z) I have it on 17730, 17300, 17250, 16920, 16600, 14980, 14800, 14750, 13920, and 13530 kHz.
0225z (probably until 0300z) I see it on 17730, 17370, 17250, 17170, 16920, 15800, 14750, and 13850 kHz.