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Title: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Shortwave_Listener on September 02, 2023, 1629 UTC
This is a list I have compiled based on loggings here on the HFU. It shows all the North American shortwave pirates heard in the month of August 2023. Note that many stations use multiple names so determining the number of actual transmitters in use is impossible. Some stations are also active so infrequently that they may not have been logged this month but may broadcast in the future. Stations are listed alphabetically and show the station name followed by the number of loggings in August 2023.

Most Active Station: Hikair FM (24/7)
Total broadcasts this month: 218

77LJS 28
All Azteca Relay Service 9
Ballsmacker Radio 4
Boombox Radio 3
Brain Brothers Pirate Radio Network 1
Cloudsplitter Radio 1
Demo Radio/CQEW Radio 1
Filibuster Radio 2
Foxy AM 4
Hikair FM 31
KEAK The Spider 6
KRAP 1
Locomotive Radio 2
Logo Radio 1
Mix Radio International 3
North American Pirate Relay Service 3
Nowhere Radio 1
Outhouse Radio 7
Radio Free Whatever 4
Sycko Radio 4
Thunder Chicken Radio 8
Truth Radio Innternational 6
Two Dog Radio 2
UNID 53
Voice of Tralfamadore 3
WANK 1
WBOG 1
WDDR Drunken DJ Radio 1
WDOG 1
WFJB 2
WHIZ 1
Wolverine Radio 2
WTF Radio Worldwide 2
X-FM 1
Yeah Man Radio 7
YHWH 11
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Ct Yankee on September 02, 2023, 2147 UTC

First, congrats for your kudos by 77LJS detailing your archive the other evening.  Second, nice job on your monthly compilation.  Finally,  Voice of Tralfamadore in August?
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: John Poet on September 05, 2023, 0550 UTC
One of these days....................



thank you for your research

Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Shortwave_Listener on September 06, 2023, 2040 UTC

First, congrats for your kudos by 77LJS detailing your archive the other evening.  Second, nice job on your monthly compilation.  Finally,  Voice of Tralfamadore in August?

Thanks, I am glad you like the compilations. I think I missed that 77LJS broadcast but I did get an email with the same message. Thanks for the info on VOT, I haven't heard him myself and mistakenly counted it as a NAPRS relay.
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023?
Post by: Shortwave_Listener on September 07, 2023, 1903 UTC
Me??? I still write long-hand to old, extra, notebooks. One, for a dupe-sheet of pretty much general observations, in pencil , and a penned notebook of kept loggings. The only, somewhat, problem that I have always had with this is that my Spell Check doesn't seem to work in long-hand. Hmmmmmmmm...

Wrong thread  ;D
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023? (Oooops...)
Post by: ThaDood on September 08, 2023, 0443 UTC
Yep... My bad... That's what happens when I try to post when someone is trying to talk to me. (Uh...) Anyway, I bumped it where it should be. Sorry, and thanks.
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Charlie_Dont_Surf on September 12, 2023, 0034 UTC

Most Active Station: Hikair FM (24/7)

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Hikair FM 31

I'm going to dispute the idea that he was on 24/7 in August. I'm not keeping records of things that I did not hear, but keep in mind that his TX is (purportedly) a lot closer to me than many of you knuckleheads. There were a few times  in the month of August when I made an effort to check and there was nothing there. Once or twice I even went to the trouble of checking on an SDR (KPH, KPS, etc.) with the same result.

Did you actually log him all 31 days last month?

Related: as far as I can tell, he has not been on 6200 since at least 3 September, perhaps earlier.
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Shortwave_Listener on September 12, 2023, 0045 UTC

Most Active Station: Hikair FM (24/7)

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Hikair FM 31

I'm going to dispute the idea that he was on 24/7 in August. I'm not keeping records of things that I did not hear, but keep in mind that his TX is (purportedly) a lot closer to me than many of you knuckleheads. There were a few times  in the month of August when I made an effort to check and there was nothing there. Once or twice I even went to the trouble of checking on an SDR (KPH, KPS, etc.) with the same result.

Did you actually log him all 31 days last month?

Related: as far as I can tell, he has not been on 6200 since at least 3 September, perhaps earlier.

I have contact with the op, I just checked an I got this:

First broadcast in August was AUG 3, on air until he was off the day of 14-15 AUG, off since 2 SEP. So actually 27, still more than any other station.
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Charlie_Dont_Surf on September 16, 2023, 0149 UTC
I have contact with the op, I just checked an I got this:

First broadcast in August was AUG 3, on air until he was off the day of 14-15 AUG, off since 2 SEP. So actually 27, still more than any other station.

One observation I have is that for all other stations, you have counted actual reported logs of the station. However, for Hikair FM, your tally is assumed and not based upon actual loggings. You never directly answered my question about whether you actually logged them 31 days in August but I suppose that I have your answer. Whether it's 27 days or 31 days, it matters little; my question is about how the tally was collected.

At the risk of being an old fart, I've been having this on and off conversation with a friend about loggings and how the standard of detail and authenticity for what counts as an actual logging has apparently reduced over the years. This is along the similar lines. You are relying upon the op's word and not actual observation in this case. That would be completely verbotten years ago. I'm pretty sure that Glenn Hauser would take issue with that, for example.

It's your tally and you can do as you wish but perhaps just indicate that some of the data is "presumed" or "assumed" where appropriate. I, for one, would have nothing to complain about then.
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Shortwave_Listener on September 16, 2023, 0217 UTC
I have contact with the op, I just checked an I got this:

First broadcast in August was AUG 3, on air until he was off the day of 14-15 AUG, off since 2 SEP. So actually 27, still more than any other station.

One observation I have is that for all other stations, you have counted actual reported logs of the station. However, for Hikair FM, your tally is assumed and not based upon actual loggings. You never directly answered my question about whether you actually logged them 31 days in August but I suppose that I have your answer. Whether it's 27 days or 31 days, it matters little; my question is about how the tally was collected.

At the risk of being an old fart, I've been having this on and off conversation with a friend about loggings and how the standard of detail and authenticity for what counts as an actual logging has apparently reduced over the years. This is along the similar lines. You are relying upon the op's word and not actual observation in this case. That would be completely verbotten years ago. I'm pretty sure that Glenn Hauser would take issue with that, for example.

It's your tally and you can do as you wish but perhaps just indicate that some of the data is "presumed" or "assumed" where appropriate. I, for one, would have nothing to complain about then.

I did not actually log him 31 times. I know that RVZ was often on and nobody logged him. Even I occasionally checked, heard him, and didn’t bother to post. Only counting the number of logs would leave out a lot, which would also potentially skew the results. There is no perfect solution really except make sure someone checks every day.
Title: Re: Active Shortwave Pirates (North America) August 2023
Post by: Charlie_Dont_Surf on September 16, 2023, 2237 UTC
I know that RVZ was often on and nobody logged him. Even I occasionally checked, heard him, and didn’t bother to post. Only counting the number of logs would leave out a lot, which would also potentially skew the results.

Hmmm. What you wrote above and your actions contradict your stated conditions right at the top of the thread, which I have quoted below.

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This is a list I have compiled based on loggings here on the HFU.

Clearly it's not entirely based upon only HFU logs. All I'm asking for is "do what you say and say what you do." Right now you are not doing that.

Mentioning "skewing the results" would imply that you are making an effort to be accurate.  Throwing in your estimates based upon non-objective guesses and swags is the height of "skewing the results".