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Title: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: Zoidberg on July 18, 2013, 0445 UTC
I don't have an account with FP magazine so I'll just reprint the summary by my Facebook friend who does:

"The Chinese plane appears to be modeled after U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command's EC-130J Commando Solo.

The Harrisburg, Pa.-based Commando Solos carry massive amounts of VHF, UHF, AM, FM, and military communications-band broadcast equipment capable of overriding the broadcasts being watched or listened to by the target audience and replacing them with a message of the U.S. government's choosing. Uncle Sam literally takes over your television."

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/07/17/china_s_new_flying_propaganda_broadcast_plane
Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: skeezix on July 19, 2013, 0253 UTC
In a move straight from the U.S. Air Force's playbook, China is now fielding its very own flying propaganda broadcast plane.

Chinese state-run media is reporting that the People's Liberation Army Air Force has modified one of its planes -- what appears to be a Y-8 airlifter (basically, Beijing's version of the U.S.-made C-130 Hercules) -- to carry the kind of broadcast equipment capable of taking over a country's radio and TV channels. It's another sign that the Chinese military is slowly starting to close the enormous advantage that the U.S. Air Force has over it in the skies.

The new plane, dubbed the Gaoxin 7, will "give the enemy nervous breakdowns" as it flies through the skies, according to a hype-ridden article by the Chinese state-run Global Times.

Not impressed yet? What if we told you that the Gaoxin 7 will also (according to a translation of the Global Times article in Hong Kong's South China Morning Post), "limit the spread of enemy propaganda, affect the morale of the enemy's army, sow seeds of rumor and confusion, and send all enemy troops from soldiers to officials into a state of nervous breakdown, achieving victory without soldiers even having to fight?"

"After that," the paper says, "[dealing with] dropped enemy pamphlets and other propaganda items will be a piece of cake."

The Global Times article on this new "weapon of mass persuasion" has received its fair share of mockery from Chinese Internet users for its breathless tone (see this overview in the South China Morning Post). But as the article notes, the United States has a long history with these kinds of PsyOps tactics -- and they're a little more sophisticated than they might at first appear.

The Chinese plane appears to be modeled after U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command's EC-130J Commando Solo.

The Harrisburg, Pa.-based Commando Solos carry massive amounts of VHF, UHF, AM, FM, and military communications-band broadcast equipment capable of overriding the broadcasts being watched or listened to by the target audience and replacing them with a message of the U.S. government's choosing. Uncle Sam literally takes over your television.

We've been using Commando Solos and their predecessors -- the EC-121 Coronet Solo -- for decades to broadcast messages of doom for our enemies and love for our allies. They flew over Southeast Asia in the early 1970s, and traveled to the Persian Gulf in the early 1990s for Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm, during which they flew around playing messages designed to convince Iraqi soldiers to surrender. They made news again in 2011 for their role in the Operation Odyssey Dawn mission in Libya.

You can listen to one of the messages (broadcast in both English and Arabic here) directed at sailors in the Libyan navy here ("If you target NATO vessels, you will be destroyed," it says). But it's not all threats and bluster: in post-9/11 Afghanistan, the planes were dispatched to play Afghan pop music for a population that had been music-less for years under Taliban rule.

Useful? Maybe. The source of mass nervous breakdowns and surrender? Not quite. To be honest, we don't really know how much these PsyOps are aiding the U.S. cause; as Wired has noted, one of the issues with this kind of operation is measuring its effectiveness. We also don't yet know what China has in mind for its new plane. But if America's history here is any indication, we've got a long way to go before a flying propaganda machine manages to achieve victory without any fighting.
Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: skeezix on July 19, 2013, 0254 UTC
But what about the Firedrake?

Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: Pigmeat on July 19, 2013, 0543 UTC
Do they deliver?
Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: Zoidberg on July 19, 2013, 1748 UTC
Do they deliver?

Sure.  But half an hour after every broadcast you're hungry for more propaganda.
Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: cmradio on July 19, 2013, 2223 UTC
China, well we kind of expect it from a commie country.....

But am I the only one here wondering WTF a "free and democratic" country like the US is doing with this plane in the first place? ???

Peace!
Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: skeezix on July 20, 2013, 0234 UTC
China, well we kind of expect it from a commie country.....

But am I the only one here wondering WTF a "free and democratic" country like the US is doing with this plane in the first place? ???

Peace!


Now that the U.S. gov't reversed themselves on propagandizing to U.S. citizens (http://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,11766.0.html), perhaps Commando Solo will come back home and provide us with riveting "news" that is important for all us subjects.  ::)   Or, forget using the AC-130, er, I mean EC-130 (what a faux pas!), fit hundreds of drones with transmitters and fly them all over.

Hope that Solo will QSL.

DPRK is still a great hold over from the good ol' daze of propaganda. Cuba & China are lame, Firedrake was decent (but not really propaganda plus its mostly gone now). Not much else on.

Gotta run... time for VOA and my daily instructional on what I need to be doing for the betterment of our dear homeland. I mustn't be disharmonious.

Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: cmradio on July 20, 2013, 1225 UTC
Indeed skeezix, thank you for enlightening me.

I think our Harper may be drooling over one of those for his next campaign ::)

Hope that Solo will QSL.

 :D

Peace!
Title: Re: China Has a New Propaganda Machine -- and This One Can Fly
Post by: Echo_One on July 20, 2013, 1302 UTC
Indeed skeezix, thank you for enlightening me.

I think our Harper may be drooling over one of those for his next campaign ::)

Hope that Solo will QSL.

 :D

Peace!

Thank god we Brits are more sensible