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General Category => Huh? => Topic started by: Teotwaki on October 19, 2023, 0451 UTC

Title: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Teotwaki on October 19, 2023, 0451 UTC: I want to vent

Half Moon Bay used to be a great kiwi SDR but all I see now is this type of congestion

(https://i.ibb.co/p3SgQ3P/IMG-6165.jpg)
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on October 19, 2023, 1118 UTC: KiwiSDR Abuse is a real thing.

I routinely have to ban IP addresses from China that sit on multiple receivers here at the same time. Often on US military frequencies.

There was a guy from Taiwan who would run the signal strength extension on CHU, he'd log onto each KiwiSDR here and run multiple sessions at the same time.

The other day I booted a user from the USA that has been on the same frequency for about 200 hours straight.

If you've got a special project that legitimately requires using multiple/extended KiwiSDR resources, letting the owner know in advance is the courteous thing to do.
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: ~SIGINT~ on October 19, 2023, 1251 UTC: And here I always though this was an internal daemon to the Kiwi receiver that got stuck because of a bug. Since whisper has defined frequencies, I guess those frequencies could be barred from the receiver.

WsprDaemon
http://wsprdaemon.org/ (http://wsprdaemon.org/)
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Teotwaki on October 20, 2023, 0212 UTC: That would be great if it was a bug with a fix! 8)

I sent an email to Craig at the listed contact email. If I get an answer I’ll share it here.
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Sunspot Surfer on October 20, 2023, 1034 UTC: FWIW, from the "About KFS" page:
"This system offers a total of forty channels, including thirteen user channels, allocated as follows: Seven waterfall user channels on the Omni antenna and two waterfall user channels on each of the three directional antennas (NW, SW, & SE). The remaining channels are normally in use for gathering WSPR spots using wsprdaemon software, by AI6VN, running on a Lenovo ThinkCentre server."
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Teotwaki on October 20, 2023, 1123 UTC: I don’t think I’ve ever seen ten channels available per antenna, just eight. So something isn’t right if the “WSPR daemon” is always consuming eight channels on the three directional antennas and two user channels are never available.
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: ~SIGINT~ on October 20, 2023, 1601 UTC: If you ask me, the WSPR daemon is poorly implemented. It should connect, gather data then disconnect and come back later on scheduled intervals.
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Teotwaki on October 20, 2023, 2120 UTC: I took a look earlier today and just now and I see two user channels and six WSPR users. Maybe something got adjusted
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Teotwaki on October 21, 2023, 0546 UTC: Quote from: Teotwaki on October 20, 2023, 2120 UTC
I took a look earlier today and just now and I see two user channels and six WSPR users. Maybe something got adjusted

Still looking good.
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: MDK2 on October 27, 2023, 1506 UTC: Quote from: ~SIGINT~ on October 19, 2023, 1251 UTC
And here I always though this was an internal daemon to the Kiwi receiver that got stuck because of a bug. Since whisper has defined frequencies, I guess those frequencies could be barred from the receiver.

WsprDaemon
http://wsprdaemon.org/ (http://wsprdaemon.org/)

Thanks for that link. From that very home page:

(https://i.imgur.com/KsmIj8c.jpg)

Please note this particular feature:

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Operates with networked KiwiSDRs for multi-channel spot acquisition (at least 8 channels)

I hope that means eight different kiwi SDR's, not all eight channels of a single one. Though judging from Teotwaki's post, those are eight different users. I tend to go for the KPH kiwi SDR myself. That one usually doesn't have this problem, though I have to caution that I'm not an everyday user so my experience may not jibe too much with actual common conditions.
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Charlie_Dont_Surf on October 28, 2023, 0101 UTC: "Don't hate the mode; hate the software"

WSPR is useful for trying out antenna changes and for checking out propagation paths. Having said, I do find it to be a drag that so many kiwi SDR channels are taken up with daemons.

Maybe after Halloween we can chase all the demons (and daemons) away....
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: ve6jy on October 29, 2023, 2359 UTC: I run wspr (and FT8 etc) on many channels of my 3 public KIWI's but the difference is that these are all "preemptable" so after the first 2 spectrum channels are filled it will assign users to the other channels and then return to the original digital monitoring after they leave. A great (relatively new) feature for the KIWI's.
RX0
(50.68.182.199, North Vancouver, Canada) 7100.00 kHz lsb z13 0:15:51 1:14:26 act
RX1
(142.59.70.205, Spruce Grove, Canada) 7100.00 kHz lsb z7 0:46:35 0:43:56 act
RX2
"FT8-autorun" (127.0.0.1, 175 decoded, preemptible) 21074.00 kHz usb z0 FT8 0:41:54
RX3
"FT8-autorun" (127.0.0.1, 43 decoded, preemptible) 28074.00 kHz usb z0 FT8 0:07:24
RX4
"FT4-autorun" (127.0.0.1, 0 decoded, preemptible) 3575.50 kHz usb z0 FT8 0:30:44
RX5
"FT8-autorun" (127.0.0.1, 86 decoded, preemptible) 24915.00 kHz usb z0 FT8 0:29:24
RX6
"VY1-GM" (50.117.148.22, Whitehorse, Canada) 7100.00 kHz lsb z0 0:05:29 1:24:37 act
RX7
"FT8-autorun" (127.0.0.1, 136 decoded, preemptible) 18100.00 kHz usb z0 FT8 0:46:34
Title: Re: I hate Whisper ham radio
Post by: Charlie_Dont_Surf on November 01, 2023, 0234 UTC: Quote from: ve6jy on October 29, 2023, 2359 UTC
but the difference is that these are all "preemptable"

Oh, very nice. What did you have to do to make this work?