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General Category => General Radio Discussion => Topic started by: radioartisan on March 12, 2024, 0045 UTC
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It seems like every week in the FCC Daily Digest I read about one or several FM pirates in the US getting busted. Anyone know the last time a shortwave pirate got busted in the US? Interestingly, the PIRATE act, which was passed in 2020 and the FCC has been using to levy exorbitant (and arguably unrealistic) fines against operators and landlords defines pirate operation within only the AM and FM broadcast bands, and not shortwave.
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As far as I know it was YHWH is 2014. He operated on several unusual frequencies very close to a military base. A few stations were busted around 2011 as well.
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There's an (incomplete) list of busts here on the HFU Wiki: https://www.hfunderground.com/wiki/index.php/Bust
That's right! The HFU has a Wiki! The best kept secret in pirate radio! ;D
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The best kept secret in pirate radio! ;D
Well, now the secret is out! ;D Thanks! I will dig into this wealth of information; thanks for everything you do.
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And Charleston Radio got the bust not too long ago, as the authorities considered it a “pirate station”
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And Charleston Radio got the bust not too long ago, as the authorities considered it a “pirate station”
But, of course, that was in Switzerland, where the FCC does not have jurisdiction.
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As far as I know it was YHWH is 2014. He operated on several unusual frequencies very close to a military base. A few stations were busted around 2011 as well.
That must be this incident in the FCC enforcement database: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-331583A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-331583A1.pdf)
There are a number of US military facilities in that area though the specific services interfered with are not mentioned in the enforcement notice I linked to. Also, if this is the same incident (and it seems like it must be), "Josiah" is likely not his legal name.
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Anyone know the last time a shortwave pirate got busted in the US?
The format FCC enforcement database does not make it easy to determine that but my potentially incomplete search revealed the following in 2015, from operation on 6876 KHz in Michigan:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf)
which would be associated with this thread about The Crystal Ship, which was the "reboot" of a very well-known HF pirate in the 1980s, though there is no mention of "the knock" here, for what that is worth:
https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410 (https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410)
Going backward in time from there, the next thing I found was the YHWH incident at the end of 2014, already discussed in this thread. Before that, I found this from 2013:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf)
I was unable to find an HFU thread associated with this incident.
Later that year, I found this though it is unclear to me if this was associated with what we would consider to be a pirate broadcast, or something else like run-of-the-mill RF interference, which is documented quite often in the enforcement database:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf)
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf)
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The format FCC enforcement database does not make it easy to determine that but my potentially incomplete search revealed the following in 2015, from operation on 6876 KHz in Michigan:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf)
which would be associated with this thread about The Crystal Ship, which was the "reboot" of a very well-known HF pirate in the 1980s, though there is no mention of "the knock" here, for what that is worth:
https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410 (https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410)
Going backward in time from there, the next thing I found was the YHWH incident at the end of 2014, already discussed in this thread. Before that, I found this from 2013:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf)
I was unable to find an HFU thread associated with this incident.
Later that year, I found this though it is unclear to me if this was associated with what we would consider to be a pirate broadcast, or something else like run-of-the-mill RF interference, which is documented quite often in the enforcement database:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf)
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf)
I do remember, back in 2016 or 2017, John Poet talking about getting the knock somewhere on the board. But I also remember that there was some heated argument where real names were revealed which I know got deleted forever by the mods or admin, and perhaps that particular post was among those that were removed. The gist was that some other pirate ratted out TCS, which led to JP finding other folks to relay his shows while he was still making them. He seems to be permanently retired now.
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As I remember John Poet was doing a show from a friends house and FCC tried to bust his friend! ... That same FCC agent was the same one to visit Ronin and leave his business card in Ronin's mailbox.
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As I remember John Poet was doing a show from a friends house and FCC tried to bust his friend! ...
If they now go after landlords and property owners, I suppose that "makes sense", even though that incident you describe occurred years before they started (famously?) doing this in the current AM & FM pirate bust push.
Maybe this is a good justification for remote operation by internet or microwave link. ;)
That same FCC agent was the same one to visit Ronin and leave his business card in Ronin's mailbox.
I heard about that one. This is laziness. We can call him "the low-energy agent". ;)
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It seems like every week in the FCC Daily Digest I read about one or several FM pirates in the US getting busted. Anyone know the last time a shortwave pirate got busted in the US? Interestingly, the PIRATE act, which was passed in 2020 and the FCC has been using to levy exorbitant (and arguably unrealistic) fines against operators and landlords defines pirate operation within only the AM and FM broadcast bands, and not shortwave.
I think that you missed the point of the Enforcement Action.
Broadcasters pays to be on 88 - 107 MHz and you don't!
When a broadcaster complains about harmful interference - it is because the broadcaster doesn't want other people competing with his legal licensed station.
On the HF bands - it would be hit or miss, because first, it requires a lot more power than 100 watts SSB - on the ham bands for people to hear you because on the HF AM you must use brute force to get your signal to be heard more than just a couple of miles away with Amplitude Modulation.
Tests were conducted using a horizontal dipole antenna at a low level in the 1930's and they just didn't work well.
So anything you do on HF that involves construction of a Vertical Radiator - tower antenna hot stick, would be visual as well as audio - aural.
The way they get you is when you have a obnoxious electric bill.
The Electric company turns you in to the FEDS and they come looking to see what kind of grow house you are running.
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Anyone know the last time a shortwave pirate got busted in the US?
The format FCC enforcement database does not make it easy to determine that but my potentially incomplete search revealed the following in 2015, from operation on 6876 KHz in Michigan:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf)
which would be associated with this thread about The Crystal Ship, which was the "reboot" of a very well-known HF pirate in the 1980s, though there is no mention of "the knock" here, for what that is worth:
https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410 (https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410)
Going backward in time from there, the next thing I found was the YHWH incident at the end of 2014, already discussed in this thread. Before that, I found this from 2013:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf)
I was unable to find an HFU thread associated with this incident.
Later that year, I found this though it is unclear to me if this was associated with what we would consider to be a pirate broadcast, or something else like run-of-the-mill RF interference, which is documented quite often in the enforcement database:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf)
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf)
One of my "relay friends" got a little careless for a time...
There was no mention of a "knock" because nobody ever heard or answered one...
There was never any public comment by John Poet, that is to say "me", about this alleged incident,
except for this somewhat cryptic blog post several months afterwards:
"Yes Virginia, there is STILL a TCS"
http://www.tcsshortwave.com/2015/12/yes-virginia-there-is-still-tcs.html
6876 kHz? who ever broadcast on that frequency ??
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The format FCC enforcement database does not make it easy to determine that but my potentially incomplete search revealed the following in 2015, from operation on 6876 KHz in Michigan:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-336269A1.pdf)
which would be associated with this thread about The Crystal Ship, which was the "reboot" of a very well-known HF pirate in the 1980s, though there is no mention of "the knock" here, for what that is worth:
https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410 (https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,23152.msg84410.html#msg84410)
Going backward in time from there, the next thing I found was the YHWH incident at the end of 2014, already discussed in this thread. Before that, I found this from 2013:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-320165A1.pdf)
I was unable to find an HFU thread associated with this incident.
Later that year, I found this though it is unclear to me if this was associated with what we would consider to be a pirate broadcast, or something else like run-of-the-mill RF interference, which is documented quite often in the enforcement database:
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324212A1.pdf)
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf (https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-324211A1.pdf)
I do remember, back in 2016 or 2017, John Poet talking about getting the knock somewhere on the board. But I also remember that there was some heated argument where real names were revealed which I know got deleted forever by the mods or admin, and perhaps that particular post was among those that were removed. The gist was that some other pirate ratted out TCS, which led to JP finding other folks to relay his shows while he was still making them. He seems to be permanently retired now.
You are remembering the controversy over the 2011 bust, which continued for years...
I never made any public comment about anything which may or may not have happened after that, other than this:
http://www.tcsshortwave.com/2015/12/yes-virginia-there-is-still-tcs.html
Yeah, there was some tussel with JTA years later, after I had made some negative comment about "the rabbit",
and JTA posted my real name on this board (which everyone who cared already knew anyway),
stated that "any pirate who has been busted deserves to have their real name publicized"
or something to that effect, (talk about "fighting for free radio"??)
after which I reminded him that his home address was a matter of public record
because he held an FCC amateur license--
at which point the conversation was terminated, and removed by our kind host here. LOL
Ah, memories
"Memories
Like the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories
Of the way we were"
Nothing but death is 'permanent', and I am still alive....
I have just been 'busy elsewhere', not permanently retired...
I guess this leaves my station or associated operations as the last "bust" (sort of) of a shortwave pirate!
I will claim that mantle with pride, as I am incorrigible
However, please note that there were numerous TCS relay broadcasts in the months after that rumored second bust:
http://www.tcsshortwave.com/2015/12/yes-virginia-there-is-still-tcs.html