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General Category => General Radio Discussion => Topic started by: ByteBORG on February 22, 2014, 1725 UTC

Title: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: ByteBORG on February 22, 2014, 1725 UTC
Was wondering....
Till my new SDR comes in the mail, I am using a web based sdr... (Utwente in NL)

Is it wrong to count it as a "logging", of what you hear remotely ?

It's all new to me, so I am excited hearing all these pirates, so when my radio arrives I guess
I'll try these new stations locally again.

Did I answer my own question, or am I just barking up a tree ?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: jFarley on February 22, 2014, 1735 UTC
The question is "count it as a logging" towards what end?

If you're trying to hear as many pirates as you can, log away, but it's a good idea to make a ment in any posts that the radio was not at your home QTH.

If you're reporting to the station for the purposes of a QSL, absolutely let the operator know that you were using a remote receiver.

Oops; my choppers just came out...
Title: Re: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: glimmer twin on February 22, 2014, 2011 UTC
I considered it "cheating" for a long time to log stuff via a  remote SDR but sometimes you hear stuff that you would otherwise not hea,r so my thinking has evolved & as long as you make it perfectly clear where you heard it from what is wrong with logging remotely?
Title: Re: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on February 22, 2014, 2012 UTC
jFarley's comments are spot on. Wherever you log a station, be sure to specify if (and the location of) you used a remote receiver. Likewise, it's generally useful to specify what you used for a receiver and antenna. It helps ops (and other listeners) take into account reception quality differences that are due less to propagation and more to equipment.
Title: Re: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: ff on February 22, 2014, 2215 UTC
Was wondering....
Is it wrong to count it as a "logging", of what you hear remotely ?

I'm always happy to QSL remote loggings BB.  A reception is a reception.  But please ALWAYS let the op know that the recep was off a remote tuner and which one.  Lacking that bit of info makes the report MORE than useless.  It then is actually MIS-information for the op.  Happy hunting with the new SDR!
Title: Re: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: Fansome on February 22, 2014, 2317 UTC
This question has roiled the DXer waters for a long time. I asked it in the late 90s or early 00s, I think, back in the day before there were SDRs. There were several stations that you could listen to over the net back then that used conventional equipment, and you could tune them and stream their audio. One in Sweden, as I recall, was very good at picking up the Euros, and I used it often.

I asked about this on the FRN, and got pretty much the responses that have been posted here, to wit, if you took the time to listen, and noted the usual logging data of date, time, frequency, mode, sio/sinpo, and receiver location, along with some program notes, it was a "legitimate" logging. I think a few ops, and we can probably guess who, did not care for the idea, but by and large remote loggings were acceptable.

And, you kids get offa my lawn!
Title: Re: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: John Poet on February 23, 2014, 0140 UTC
As an op I appreciated all reports, as long as I knew about where the receiver was posted, it's all the same whether the listener had hands on it or not.

SDRs, hey, even better-- especially if I get sent a few minutes of audio, so I can hear it exactly as it could be heard at that listener's location.  Who cares if they were in the room at the time or not, LOL.
The recordings are so worthwhile to get, it's easily worth an eQSL to me-- I don't really care if the "listener" was hearing it at the time it played or not.
Title: Re: A Question for the Elders...
Post by: redhat on February 23, 2014, 0325 UTC
I'm with everyone else.  I verify reports on remote receivers, but I appreciate being informed that it was received that way.  This is particularly true with European listeners listening to US pirates.

+-RH