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Title: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: oly1959 on February 28, 2014, 2143 UTC
Can someone have a listen to 14313 USB and explain what is going on? Hearing music, swearing and alot of bad mouthing each other.


Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: paranoid dxer on February 28, 2014, 2200 UTC
the same old same old every day all day   
after awhile it sounds like a broken record
been going on for years     just another bunch of "good old boys"
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: oly1959 on February 28, 2014, 2220 UTC
Thanks paranoid dxer. Sounds like the old CB band at times.
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: BDM on March 01, 2014, 1305 UTC
Since you've asked, I'll try and give you a better idea. This has been an ongoing battle for years between several HAMs. Many are far more than "good 'ol boys" as described. If interested, you can start your search here for the main players. But if you Google 14.313, you'll come up with many pages. I'm not in any way affiliated with any of these groups, but I'm well aware of it. The battles also sometimes drop from 14.313 and end up on 7.200 and usually later in the night on 3.833 or more popularly on 3.843.

It's HAM radios version of All in the Family :P

http://www.ve7kfm.com/
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: ka1iic on March 01, 2014, 1709 UTC
I could go into detail about this but will refrain because of it being total foolishness and way outside of reality...  it is slander and liable at its nauseating best really...  sickening...

74 Vince
KA1IIC
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: outhouse radio on March 01, 2014, 1823 UTC
BUT BUT BUTT  Hams are GOOD  Pirates are BAD  
  watch what you say about that crowd here
have been know to defend post themselves here
           because
Hams are GOOD  Pirates are BAD

give me a break
 BREAKER BREAKER  GOOD BUDDY
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: ka1iic on March 01, 2014, 1904 UTC
There's good and bad in every group...  as a former church deacon... errr... well... I'll hold that for now.... sigh...

did you hear the one about the Priest that was having  an affair with a married women and her husband burned the church down to purify the ground it stood on???  Ahhhh yes... Tales of Tilbury Town... etal...

:-)

73 Vince
KA1IIC
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: oly1959 on March 01, 2014, 2112 UTC
Again, thanks for all the info. Just surprised when I came across it tuning around the different frequencies. Just kind of reminded me of the typical CB radio. :)
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: Chanter on March 01, 2014, 2212 UTC
When DXing, I occasionally tune around the ham bands.  Sometimes you hear some darn interesting QSOs that way, especially during contests.  I've been warned to avoid the heck out of 14313 and 14275kHz, however.  Brother but those frequencies are awful!  CBers with ham tickets sounds about right. 

I'm pretty sure I heard them QSY to 7200kHz once, one night about a year ago.  awful, awful stuff.  I admit I was half asleep with the radio in my ears at the time, but these were definitely rude, crude hams/CBers, not an SW station.  Nightmare fodder for me, and I do mean that! 

Working on my ham ticket at the moment, and if I ever get a general or higher license, I'll be staying the frak off those specific frequencies to be sure. 
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: OldSeaRock on March 04, 2014, 1515 UTC


Working on my ham ticket at the moment, and if I ever get a general or higher license, I'll be staying the frak off those specific frequencies to be sure.  


Good Luck getting your ticket.   :)
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on March 04, 2014, 1617 UTC
I've sometimes wondered if the FCC tolerates the nonsense on 14313, with the hopes that it does not spread elsewhere.
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: BDM on March 05, 2014, 0411 UTC
I've sometimes wondered if the FCC tolerates the nonsense on 14313, with the hopes that it does not spread elsewhere.


It has been going on for many years and the FCC has commented on it several times. Some have even argued they let this go on (state side) with a similar tactic like laying out a rotting carcass. It attracts and keeps the buzzards & flies in one small area instead of spread out. The theories abound :)
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: zackers on March 07, 2014, 0515 UTC
I don't even bother listening to 14313 kHz. In fact, I avoid it. Been trying to work some DX on 40 CW tonight.  :)

Zack W9SZ
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: Skipmuck on July 23, 2014, 2300 UTC
Seems like the Feds decided to put an end to the "nonsense"! Check out the link below and scroll down to "Texts". Hmmm...animal noises?
http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Digest/2014/dd140723.html
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: Fried Chickin' on July 24, 2014, 0438 UTC
3840 LSB is waaaay more fun to listen to.
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: oly1959 on July 26, 2014, 2300 UTC
Looks like the FCC slapped them with some big fines Skipmuck. Maybe they might stop now ???. I doubt it. But why the animal noises ??? I will also check out 3840 LSB. Thanks srfpunk138.
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: Skipmuck on July 27, 2014, 1440 UTC
The funny part of all this is that this behaviour on the ham bands would not be totally out of place on the pirate bands, or better yet in the IRC chat room (last night for instance). I've heard some entertaining animal noises on a few pirate programs, and have read extensively about the backstabbing and backbiting on the former FRN. I was told by a straight and narrow long time ham operator that the pirates didn't bother him as long as they didn't interfere with legal broadcasts.. Some of the good natured swiping in the pirate community is actually entertaining until it gets abusive. I really don't like to see anybody getting busted, but stupidity is stupidity no matter how extensively you overanalyze it. These guys that got busted were warned several times and the FCC gave them just enough rope to hang themselves. I think there is a message here for both pirate ops and listeners to give some thought to.
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: oly1959 on July 27, 2014, 2329 UTC
With everything, there is a fine line that you don't cross and these gents, legal or not did and they paid the consequences for their actions. They can only blame themselves for their stupidity. Thanks for all the info Skipmuck. Very entertaining to say the least. ;D
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: CDN on December 26, 2014, 1925 UTC
For the 'rest of the story' read:

http://members.shaw.ca/n1fm/BUSTED.htm
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: Rizla on January 21, 2015, 2309 UTC
Non-stop self-described "fillibuster" going on right now... all these guys trying to out-talk each other, with rambling nonsensical discourses going on at the same time... this is beyond self parody. It doesn't seem the fines changed a damn thing!

Plus ça change!
http://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php?topic=5124.0;wap2
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: RCCI on January 24, 2015, 0209 UTC
Just listened to 3840 LSB for a while and it reminded me of a joke... What has 100 legs and 72 teeth?

Answer: The front two rows of a Willie Nelson concert
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: fpeconsultant on January 29, 2015, 0025 UTC
I had never checked this frequency out.  I just did.
WTF?
fpe
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: fpeconsultant on January 29, 2015, 2343 UTC
ok.  like driving past an accident, i just had to listen again to this freq.
why in the world is this allowed to continue?
and pirates are the bad guys??  ugh.
fpe
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: CDN on October 28, 2015, 1922 UTC
FYI So as to nail the two related coffins shut, even though the nonsence continues, see the two latest FCC FOs:

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-832A1.pdf

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-51A1.pdf

And don't forget to carefully also read the two underlying NALs -- note particularly that FN #11 in BOTH refers to the occasionally herein maligned Karol VE7KFM -- and FN #16 in the Brian CROW K3VR NAL tells the LIEing HAMereekan Psycho tale:

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1030A1.pdf

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1031A1.pdf

ENJOY !!!


Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: ka1iic on October 30, 2015, 1731 UTC
Well that pirate Ham has been operating on 14275 khz during the hurricane season this year... running that stupid robot beacon he insists on using...  if you catch his call sometime check the FCC database...  he has no license... he did once but no longer...
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: CDN on December 17, 2015, 2246 UTC
The mills of the gods grind slowly....

In the case of KZ8O/nd8v:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applAdmin.jsp?applID=9361529

12/08/2015    Offlined for Alert List Review
12/08/2015    Offlined for Alert List Review
12/08/2015    Redlight Review Completed

In my case 15 years -- but better late then never....

And while we're at it, take a look at K3VR's ADMIN History:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applAdminHistory.jsp?applID=8774532

01/17/2015    Offlined for Alert List Review
01/17/2015    Offlined for Alert List Review
01/16/2015    Withdrawal of Application Received
09/15/2014    Offlined for Enforcement Bureau Action
09/06/2014    Offlined for Alert List Review
09/06/2014    Offlined for Alert List Review
09/06/2014    Redlight Review Completed
09/05/2014    Payment Confirmed
09/05/2014    Modification Received

FYI The immediately above noted "Modification" was K3VR's application for the Vanity call-sign "N0NAL" -- which unfortunately for him was superceded by the FO early this year -- hence the "Withdrawal of Application"....

And "N0FO" phonetically 'NO -- Fuck Off' was a non-starter, since it's already taken, HI.

As we used to say in the Service, for both LIDs: Wait for it!!!
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: BDM on December 18, 2015, 0021 UTC
7.200 on/in 40m is another that has been out of control as of late. Many of the same "suspects" involved. Daytime is usually 14.313, with 7.200 in the mornings and afternoons. Then it bleeds down to 3.843 (though that has been pretty quiet the last month), or 3.840 or 3.860 as the nighttime comes on
Title: Re: Nonsense on 14313 USB
Post by: Terry on December 19, 2015, 1341 UTC
Looks like they got another one. Good. From QRZ.COM

WILLIAM F. CROWELL. Notified William F. Crowell, licensee of station W6WBJ, Diamond Springs, California, of his Apparent Liability in the amount of $25,000 for intentionally causing interference to other amateur radio operators and transmitting prohibited communication.

Action by: District Director, San Francisco Office, Western Region, Enforcement Bureau.

Adopted: 12/17/2015 by NALF. (DA No. 15-1438).


https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-1438A1.docx

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-1438A1.pdf