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Title: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: weaksigs on November 04, 2009, 2220 UTC
 ;D We're underway for the dual antenna test
Hopefully propagation will hold up for some reports!
See earlier postings for the test details.
Cheers!
weaksigs
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: weaksigs on November 05, 2009, 1303 UTC
 >:(  >:(  >:(

After a quick field strength survey last night it appears that something is amiss.
The vertical is putting out a good signal but the inverted v is wayyy down in comparison.
I used my last piece of coax to feed the inverted v which is very old and I didn't
measure its loss. This was buried for awhile so it might've picked up moisture.

So the machine might go silent long enough for a coax loss measurement and
will notify all if that be the case.

In the mean time its running until further notice.

weaksigs
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: Tube Shortwave on November 05, 2009, 1429 UTC
I am QRV!
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: chucks on November 06, 2009, 1547 UTC
Hi all, it's Friday morning about 1542z. I have been watching 12889.230 khz for about a half hour now. I am now seeing what looks like V's then a space of several seconds,(also hearing them too but very weak) then the V's come back. They just faded out now so I'll sit here as long as the xyl will let me HI HI..

Chuck
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: weaksigs on November 06, 2009, 1711 UTC
 :-[
The only thing surprising is that you hear the "D's" at all!
It may be Sunday before I get a chance to obtain new coax
and swap it out! You have only confirmed my suspicions but
maybe a few more reports will be offered even with a sick
feedline.

Thanks for the report!   ;)
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: weaksigs on November 08, 2009, 1455 UTC
Maintenance being attempted
Test on 12.888 shut down until problem is found on "D" antenna.

Cheers all!

weaksigs
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: weaksigs on November 08, 2009, 1821 UTC
The DUAL ANTENNA 12.888 TEST IS ONCE AGAIN UNDERWAY!
STILL RUNNING THE VERTICAL ON "V" AND THE DIPOLE ON "D"

There is a small frequency shift on the transmitted frequency between
the two antennas. Obviously there is a slight pulling of the oscillator
as the two antennas have a different load impedance.

No buffer stage ... just an oscillator and final!
Let me know if you can hear these two...

Thanks and good listening.

73
weaksigs
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on November 08, 2009, 1916 UTC
If I had to say, D is coming in slightly stronger than V, overall. Although it does very a bit with fading. The difference is not large.

Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on November 08, 2009, 1922 UTC
Also here is a recording:

http://www.spynumbers.com/whyp/Rec-11-08-2009-141929.wav (http://www.spynumbers.com/whyp/Rec-11-08-2009-141929.wav)
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: Token on November 08, 2009, 1935 UTC
D is the stronger here at 1935 UTC, on multiple antennas including one that is vertical.

On my 12 MHz inverted V, D is about 8 dB higher than V.
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: The Web on November 08, 2009, 2010 UTC
V strong into Orlando, no sign of D.
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: beaconman on November 08, 2009, 2025 UTC
AT 2023Utc in Colorado...

The dipole whens out big time cant even hear the Vertical...
Exciting experiment...

Antenna hr is windom cut for 7 MC with Erickson current balum
FRG 8800
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: beaconman on November 08, 2009, 2121 UTC
Now im hearing the Vs and the Ds at 2116Utc
the Ds still seem stronger by ear...
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: Tube Shortwave on November 09, 2009, 0035 UTC
I heard a few D's in California.  I'm staying quiet about it before I start getting taxed on my radio signal reception.
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: Seamus on November 09, 2009, 0038 UTC
Not very helpful I know, but I'm seeing neither D nor V here in SC.
I caught a handful of the usual suspects this evening (OK, MO, Blinky, Pike 78, TS, and OR), but neither of the hoped-for D or V beacons.

I see a very weak continuous carrier in the neighborhood that I would expect to see your signal in, but nothing resembling what the others are getting.

Maybe I'll see them when I can get the other antenna hung.  Until then, I'll still be keeping an ear out.
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: beaconman on November 09, 2009, 0230 UTC
Copied this V/D beacon until 2300utc...
The Ds win out over the three hours I listened to this beacon...
In fact many times the Ds were there solid and no Vs and then at certain
times I copied Vs and Ds  in those cases the Ds still were stronger...
There were no times that only Vs were heard and no Ds...

This is one of the coolest PHFER beacon yet....

Thanks for all your work.
Title: Re: Dual Antenna Test 12889.2 Khz
Post by: Frank on November 09, 2009, 0235 UTC
Monitored D/V remotely in San Diego at 2200 UTC today (Sunday) using an FRG-8800 and a passive 6' whip matched to the coax feedline with a 15:1 Z-xfmr. D definitely had the better signal during fade ups with V only heard occasionally.  Good test and the inverted-V dipole is best for coast-to-coast transmission.

Frank
K3YAZ
San Diego