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Title: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: atrainradio on September 06, 2015, 1755 UTC
Or at least according to some friends. Is this true?
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: SW Observer on September 07, 2015, 0525 UTC
I'm no expert on this, but I live under 10 miles away from WRCR's transmitter/antenna's and I hear severe RF noise on 1690 and 1710, 1680 and 1720 are totally clear of any noise, so it may very well be.

Listening on my Tecsun PL-660 receiver.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: Pigmeat on September 09, 2015, 0203 UTC
Hire a local tweaker. Tell him to take an axe to WRCR's hardline. Promise you'll throw in a box or two of sudafed after the job is done. (You won't have to worry about that end of the deal.)  If that stops the RF you've got your answer.

Remember, radio is about practical experiments.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: atrainradio on September 09, 2015, 1830 UTC
RW- Yes that RF noise is representative of them running IBOC. The sidebands (if seen on a SDR) are 20 kHz wide on either side. So, for 1700's case 1680-1700 and 1700-1720.

You can now see why I am totally against IBOC. It does nothing except ruin the co channels.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: Pigmeat on September 10, 2015, 1028 UTC
The racket from the thing was drifting this far south on peaks, occasionally cutting into WEUT out of Alabama, which is saying something. Those WEUT preachers like to run loud and broad as barn door.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on September 17, 2015, 1045 UTC
Looking at the SDR waterfall... sure looks like IBOC to me.  Just heard a WRCR ID at 1043, into the weather now. Not sure if they are at their night (1 kw) or day (10 kW) power right now.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: BDM on September 17, 2015, 1751 UTC
Yep, they've effectively destroyed 1710 listening for me :(
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on September 17, 2015, 1832 UTC
The NJ TIS ruined 1710 here some time ago. Is it still on the air? I think there was one in Springfield, MA as well.

1720 seems to be the place for pirates now, not that I have heard many there.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: jFarley on September 17, 2015, 1848 UTC
But a very directional antenna may be of great use here...
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: SW Observer on September 17, 2015, 2306 UTC
A shame, as much as I like WRCR (As a local station for me) and the music they play, I really don't think that going IBOC was necessary.

I doubt there will be too many listeners who are taking advantage of that, they were fine without it.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: Kilokat7 on September 18, 2015, 0022 UTC
1710 has been bad enough with the proliferation of TIS stations that have come on the air recently but this is probably the final nail in the coffin, at least from my listening location.  I noticed the IBOC sidebands have destroyed what was left of 1710 here.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on September 18, 2015, 0023 UTC
I just tuned into WRCR now, to hear an ad for the station, looking for advertising sales staff.

Tuning up to 1710, there is a TIS relaying NOAA weather radio, with considerable IBOC hash.

1720 is clear  ;D

Speaking of 1710... I have not heard Radio Celestial in some time, did they finally close down? I know they got at least one NOUO.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: BDM on September 18, 2015, 0242 UTC
Not sure. I could swear I caught them maybe last May or June...
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on September 18, 2015, 1349 UTC
FWIW WRCR is coming in fairly well, S8, at 1349z.
Title: Re: WRCR 1700 has gone IBOC
Post by: krystallo on September 20, 2015, 1636 UTC
Hey Guys,

Some make mention  of Seventeen TWENTY for use as a pirate (or "Pt. 15ish") frequency. I would THINK that most X band receivers are digital and won't cover that high. Even an ANALOG  set may not fully  squeak up  that high either. Listener ship is small  enough on 1710 or lower. Running  on 1720 would only be good for "captive audiences" (  ie friends with communications receivers waiting for your transmission).

"Technically" a GREAT frequency with essentially ZERO potential for casual listeners.

K