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Loggings => Shortwave Broadcast => Topic started by: ChrisSmolinski on February 16, 2016, 2357 UTC
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OM singing.
Now OM talking, religious, talk, mention of disciples.
Not sure now if this is a pirate or SWBC.
WRMI ID At 0000z. But they use 9955 kHz. So some sort of spur or mixing product? Or a pirate relay?
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2345z Just tuned in the carrier, listened & it seems to be a relay of Overcomer Ministries...
weak s5 but ID'd at 0000z...
0010z is this what "speaking in tongues" sounds like?
Ultimate question: Spur or relay?
[Sorry for freq typo... Multitasking isn't always possible :-\ ]
***UPDATE: It's a NEW freq for WRMI!!! I called WRMI & spoke with Jeff White. It will be a new outlet as of tomorrow, at a bearing of 285 degs [toward San Diego]!!! It appears on their website under "Programming" section. Mr. White was a little startled & said they'd only started transmitting at 2330z. I laughed & joked that despite no press on this new freq, there's a crew of us watching them. He was a nice guy to talk with!
Research reveals Jeff is the founder of WRMI, FYI...
IMHO, the FCC did this intentionally!!! LOL :P
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6915.
Just audible and often "unusable."
Ron
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I have this here also at 0002 UTC....OM singing audible over some heavy local noise. Tough copy....
Hmmm...interestingly enough, there doesn't seem to be any pirate operations on 6915 in the last few years other than one from Europe that hasn't been heard here in many moons. This should provoke a parody or two.... 8)
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Hearing the same down here in KY.
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0010- S3-4 in the noise here
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Hearing it also. Sounds likes man singing but audio a bit "watery" here and signal not very strong.
As Chris mentioned, may be a mixing product. At times sounds like two signal interlapping with each other.
Not sure if current geomagnetic storm may be creating some weird prop effects tonight.
Checked the schedule, Rafman, and it looks like it will be Bro. Stair on 24/7 on this frequency.
Won't this interfere will the MARS broadcast sometimes heard on 6913?
I guess the question I have is why the FCC would allow a commercial station to broadcast on a frequency so far outside the 41-metre band?
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WRMI? 6915 kHz AM 0022 17feb16 UTC
Good sig but strange
0022 - sounds like moaning
0031 - Preaching???? "End of time..."
0045 - This is just too wacko. Think I'll go back to listening to static!
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115z Brother $tair commentary
A little weak but above noise
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Listened for a few minutes earlier... weak reception in and out of high noise level here.
I thought maybe Brother Stair had turned pirate. ;D
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0208 Z: Brother Stair, S5 here, heavy QRN and QSB. :-X
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I toured WRMI last summer and met Jeff White and most of the crew. All really nice and they spent a lot of time with us (wife was with me). Quite an installation and an outstanding antenna farm. If you are ever going to be in the area schedule a tour with them ahead of time. Info is on their web site.
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I'd just stumbled into content at 5:20+UTC and there is still barely legible signal, interesting audio. Hope conditions improve, thank you for the broadcast WRMI!
[Edit B. Stair (?) thing is on now at 5:42, it's intense!]
[Edit: Same strange content has continued until 0653Z, Still on. Quite an off-the-wall marathon. Was this all in fact WRMI?
Off at 0658? No, back at 0700, QSO? What a thrill, thanks for the show!
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i suspect a few things though i could be wrong or i could be right:
1) that "brother scare" is aware of the pirates and their listeners in this band (go where the fish go)
2) that "brother scare" successfully lobbied the FCC in more way$ than one (money is the root of change)
3) that "brother scare" reads these forums (inspiration is key)
4) this may be just the beginning (expect more SWBC in this band)
yes there are MARS operations on and around 6915KHZ that are very frequently active during the day on the east cost but as its been observed before, they simply switch frequencies (using their emailed charts) when they receive interference, MARS operations have enough frequencies at their disposal just like COTHEN ALE/VOICE operations do in the USA and COTHEN has ALE/SSB VOICE operations in the 7Mhz SWBC band.
if MARS operates within +/- 5 Khz of 6915 and complains enough to the FCC, the FCC may make WRMI change their frequency (just like they did to WBCQ) but times change, so do importance and needs, and i suspect that this new 24/7 SWBC at 6915 is here to stay.
i believe it is likely possible the motive behind this (FCC) is to cause "disruption" to the well known popular frequency of 6925 though i expect the audio bandwidth of 6915 not to be greater than 5Khz each side band, reducing your SDR receive filter to 4/4.5Khz AM (or using ECSS AM USB) will significantly reduce the 5Khz co-channel heterodyne, although if the signal from 6915 is quite strong, there will be some splatter beyond 5Khz that cannot be alleviated regardless of filters/notches used.
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You make some very interesting points, ED. This is one of the weirdest "pirates" I've heard. It's still going on and on, 0721z...
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You make some very interesting points, ED. This is one of the weirdest "pirates" I've heard. It's still going on and on, 0721z...
further, i just thought of this additional comment but decided to just post it instead of editing my post.
we all know the FCC has had severe budget and staff cuts and the end result has been steep priority levels based on the level of importance when it comes to "shutting down" a radio pirate.
i believe "pirates" in the SW band arent as "high priority" to the FCC unlike FM "pirates", they will only respond if the SW "pirate" is causing major severe interference (to anything) on an ongoing continuing basis.
for obvious reasons, SWBC stations dont care if a pirate is "stealing" their listeners like FMBC stations do.
i believe its the FCC's idea and intent to "stomp" or "disrupt" SW "pirates" by simply permitting SWBC stations to broadcast on or near the frequencies used by SW "pirates".
this would make total economical sense for the FCC who already has a thin budget to begin with but, i believe many SW "pirates" will simply move to "elsewhere" frequencies though "elsewhere" frequencies should be chosen very carefully, because if a SW pirate is causing interference to another assigned operator on or near that frequency (or causing interference of any kind), this would give the FCC a valid reasonable request to "up the budget" in locating and shutting down that "pirate" causing the interference (remember priority level and level of importance).
instead of wasting what little resources are available to "catch" a SW "pirate", why not open the band up to high power SWBC instead ?
it may be tough to hear WRMI at night but i suspect daytime operations (NVIS) will be much different.
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Still heard at 1314z.
I'm not sure this is an attempt to reduce pirate transmissions on 43 meters. If so, I'd expect to see WRMI operating on 6925 instead of 6915 (which actually causes more problems for MARS than pirates). If anything, you might see some folks looking for WRMI that instead end up finding a pirate transmission. Actually, if anything, this creates some interesting opportunities for pirate operators... ;D
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Still heard at 1314z.
I'm not sure this is an attempt to reduce pirate transmissions on 43 meters. If so, I'd expect to see WRMI operating on 6925 instead of 6915 (which actually causes more problems for MARS than pirates). If anything, you might see some folks looking for WRMI that instead end up finding a pirate transmission. Actually, if anything, this creates some interesting opportunities for pirate operators... ;D
not necessarily "reduce" but "disrupt".
6915 is close enough to 6925 to cause somewhat a disruption even at moderate signal strengths for those who have regular SW radios.
monitoring the frequency this morning, i heard COTHEN ALE (testing the reliability of the frequency) a couple of Khz below 6915 on SSB but within the 5Khz audio bandwidth of WRMI.
If anything, you might see some folks looking for WRMI that instead end up finding a pirate transmission.
thats what im betting on why TOM has 24/7 operations in the 43 meter band with WRMI, "folks looking for pirates and finding TOM on WRMI instead".
edit @1508:
as i expected, monitoring 6915, i heard a strong VFO "swooshing" carrier appear for a few seconds then disappeared as if someone is playing around, i wonder what else will make surprise appearances.
1525 - someone sending CW now
1527 - CW stopped
1546 - CW started
1549 - CW stopped
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Hell, Ralph is on 5015, too. He's giving Radio Rebelde on 5025 a plastering.
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0046 Feb 18 (UTC) Can hear these guys about S3-4. Sounds like some religious stuff/ hollering.. pretty unusual for a pirate.
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6915. Just audible and often "unusable." Ron
::) Heard That! ::)
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It's been about a decade but wasn't WEWN on 6875 kHz for awhile? It used to annoy the Hell out of me when I was broadcasting as it had a faint spur on 6925 kHz. that was tough to distinguish from a pirate running low power in SSB.
Once I figured out what it was, I'd go on over the spur. Of course, I generally went on over anything in sideband as a matter of principle. If I want to hear cat's fight, I'll open a window.
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It's been about a decade but wasn't WEWN on 6875 kHz for awhile? It used to annoy the Hell out of me when I was broadcasting as it had a faint spur on 6925 kHz. that was tough to distinguish from a pirate running low power in SSB.
That sounds right. I also recall when WYFR used 6915, and I think KNLS did at one point also. As others have said, this does give us another propagation beacon. Pretty weak here at 1150z, I can hear a little audio, but not much. For those of us in the northeast, WRMI is a little too far away for good NVIS propagation during the daytime, and too close to hear when the band goes long. So kind of the best of both worlds ;D
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Elite Data, your comments are spot on and your suspicions of why may be, sadly, quite correct. This subject keeps rising like Dracula, what on earth could be the reason other than $? On the other hand, like you and Chris said, the pirates will simply move if necessary.
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I can't understand why the FCC would authorize a commercial broadcaster to use 6915 kHz. It is not part of any internationally recognized SW broadcast band. I doubt the U.S. military will be amused by this move as 6914 kHz was one of their commonly used MARS frequencies. This is all very strange. If the FCC did it on purpose to, let's say, discourage pirates from using that portion of the spectrum, I think they failed miserably. 6915 was rarely used by pirates who mostly operate from 6925 and up. I certainly won'y be listening to WRMI on that frequency as every time I've tuned it in, it's been Brother Stair and his moronic followers on there.
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