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Technical Topics => Equipment => Topic started by: MDK2 on March 16, 2016, 1611 UTC

Title: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: MDK2 on March 16, 2016, 1611 UTC
I'm about to embark on my first antenna project, a simple longwire. I have a 100' spool (suburban living means that's about the maximum I can make it) and thought I would connect it to my chimney on the far end and a tree outside my window for the near. That should give me around 50' of taught wire.

My question is this. In my research of longwire projects find that people often solder on the lead that connects to their receiver. However my unit (a Grundig Sattelit 750) has a place where you can connect a bare wire for the antenna in a jack like you find on a stereo speaker. Assuming that I get the length nice and taught, can I just trail the end of the wire down to the receiver directly? Or is there a compelling reason for soldering on a lead?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: Josh on March 16, 2016, 1706 UTC
Something to consider is keeping in-home noises (computers, wall warts, various entertainment electronics wich spew rfi throughout the typical home) off the antenna and lead in. I would use the wire from the chimney to tree, and then coax from the chimney to the listening position. A balun at the interface betwixt antenna and coax as well as some judiciously placed ferrites on the coax would help make sure noise is kept out of the delicious yet tender signals we desire.
Title: Re: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: MDK2 on March 16, 2016, 1718 UTC
Good tip Josh. Thanks!
Title: Re: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: Oliver on March 17, 2016, 1652 UTC
MDK2,
take a look at this link: http://www.devill.net/Documentation/ACCESSOIRES/RF%20Systems/MLB.pdf
I think this article will explain most of your questions in regards to your antenna project.

Good luck with your project.
Title: Re: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: MDK2 on March 17, 2016, 2224 UTC
Thanks for the link Oliver, I will definitely check that out.  ;D
Title: Re: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: pendulous on March 26, 2016, 0113 UTC
I'm about to embark on my first antenna project, a simple longwire. I have a 100' spool (suburban living means that's about the maximum I can make it) and thought I would connect it to my chimney on the far end and a tree outside my window for the near. That should give me around 50' of taught wire.

My question is this. In my research of longwire projects find that people often solder on the lead that connects to their receiver. However my unit (a Grundig Sattelit 750) has a place where you can connect a bare wire for the antenna in a jack like you find on a stereo speaker. Assuming that I get the length nice and taught, can I just trail the end of the wire down to the receiver directly? Or is there a compelling reason for soldering on a lead?

Thank you!

I have the same radio. the connection you refer to is a 600 ohm input and you should be able to connect your random wire to that directly. the other connection (bnc I believe) is for 50 ohm antennas.
Title: Re: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: RobRich on May 08, 2016, 0306 UTC
If ever looking to upgrade or try something else, and especially if dealing with local common-mode noise on the proposed longwire, perhaps consider a more balanced, yet still simple antenna like a 40m-band dipole or even a G5RV Jr. for your ~50' span. Simply fold back the ends or let the ends hang down if the antenna is a little longer than span. Roll your own "ugly balun" with a few feet of your coaxial feedline as a basic choke. Either should suffice for receiving most of the HF spectrum.
Title: Re: Regarding long wire antennas.
Post by: Radiogoon on May 21, 2016, 0223 UTC
If ever looking to upgrade or try something else, and especially if dealing with local common-mode noise on the proposed longwire, perhaps consider a more balanced, yet still simple antenna like a 40m-band dipole or even a G5RV Jr. for your ~50' span. Simply fold back the ends or let the ends hang down if the antenna is a little longer than span. Roll your own "ugly balun" with a few feet of your coaxial feedline as a basic choke. Either should suffice for receiving most of the HF spectrum.

^^This^^