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Loggings => Shortwave Broadcast => Topic started by: R4002 on June 30, 2017, 1813 UTC
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I was cruising around 19 meters and came across what I thought was two-way comms (while listening in AM mode) on 15555 kHz / 15.555 MHz...I then switched to USB and realized it was yet another crazy rambling radio evangelist preacher, typical of, well, all the shortwave broadcast bands. A quick Google search shows me its WJHR out of Milton, Florida.
The question in my mind is, why is this guy using SSB? Isn't the point of these radio evangelists to reach as many people as possible? I don't think people with AM only portable receivers would bother to buy a more expensive receiver when they can hear Brother Stair and a dozen other equally delusional radio preachers transmitting in AM?
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They've been up there awhile, and I've often wondered the same thing.
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Isn't there supposed to be more oomph for the PEP if you're in USB or LSB without any carrier? I remember Token telling me something about that last year in the chat, when I was still really new to all this. I wonder because this station is always weak, and I don't know if it's because of the direction of the beam relative to my western QTH, or if they're operating well below the advertised power of 50 kW.
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Instead of putting power into carrier + USB + LSB, put it all into USB.
They have been around a while and I've wondered the same thing. But, its their transmitter and their money.
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Perhaps those that use in AM are already saved; those that use USB are somewhat redeemable. but those that use LSB are broadcasting/listening from the gates of hell and why bother.
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Perhaps those that use in AM are already saved; those that use USB are somewhat redeemable. but those that use LSB are broadcasting/listening from the gates of hell and why bother.
Upper Sideband is the manliest of modes.
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*raspberry* :P
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*raspberry* :P
Don't blame him. USB was declared the manliest of all modes by He-Man of He-Man Radio back in the mid-90's. He was having fun with a female pirate named Juliet who operated in AM.
Everyone agrees about LSB, it's the lesser side band.
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It might come down to money, ssb may be cheaper to run than am at that station, but I don't suppose many 3rd worlders have a product detector. So in that light, maybe he's trying to reach more advanced and wealthy heathen?
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It might come down to money, ssb may be cheaper to run than am at that station, but I don't suppose many 3rd worlders have a product detector. So in that light, maybe he's trying to reach more advanced and wealthy heathen?
Per HFCC this beams at an azimuth of 5° so that's probably the case. A whole lot of HFU regulars are right in that path. Repent!
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Don't blame him. USB was declared the manliest of all modes by He-Man of He-Man Radio back in the mid-90's. He was having fun with a female pirate named Juliet who operated in AM.
Everyone agrees about LSB, it's the lesser side band.
I never heard He-Man say it, but Red Mercury Labs sure did a lot and they got me in the bad(?) habit of saying that frequently.
Then there is glorious C-QUAM, the mode that conquers all for great audio, yet is merciful to allow lesser radios to still listen in goodness of plain ol' AM. SSB (either one of them and their dual-personality weirdo, ISB) sure aren't nice like that. They not only demand pure dedication to their mode, but precise tuning. Who has time to tune? Get it close, call it a day.
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If they were actually running 50 kw, they should blast into here since they are beaming pretty much right at me, of course that's all you do is assume they are beaming at 5 degrees and running 50 kw. Google maps satellite view of the address of the transmitter site shows a log periodic pointing more like 270 degrees instead of 5. Bing shows the same antenna pointed around 315 degrees. Doing a search on the FCC website shows the owner of WJHR is a ham so I bet the same equipment gets used for both his ham station and the broadcast station. Either way, if you're beaming towards me, I should be able the hear something better than a signal that's buried in the noise, especially since they're supposed to be running 50 kw. I've heard hams on 20 meters from down in Florida running only 1500 watts max that are stronger than this guy, I've even heard pirates with a more potent signal.
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If they were actually running 50 kw, they should blast into here since they are beaming pretty much right at me, of course that's all you do is assume they are beaming at 5 degrees and running 50 kw. Google maps satellite view of the address of the transmitter site shows a log periodic pointing more like 270 degrees instead of 5. Bing shows the same antenna pointed around 315 degrees. Doing a search on the FCC website shows the owner of WJHR is a ham so I bet the same equipment gets used for both his ham station and the broadcast station. Either way, if you're beaming towards me, I should be able the hear something better than a signal that's buried in the noise, especially since they're supposed to be running 50 kw. I've heard hams on 20 meters from down in Florida running only 1500 watts max that are stronger than this guy, I've even heard pirates with a more potent signal.
315° would be very strong out my way. WRMI has a transmitter that's at 315°, which is the one they use for 5850 AM, and everything on that one barrels in (except when it's daylight in these summer months). Of course, they're at 100 kW, but even so. I've definitely copied stronger hams from SE locales than WJHR.
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You should listen to him. Might do you some good
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Glenn Hauser's "World of Radio" (I listen via podcast) talked about this some time ago and indeed concluded they're running a fraction of the 50 kW they're licensed for.
This past week's episode (April 2) includes an account of a listener trying to visit the station's transmitter site and not getting too far before turning around for fear of being shot at.
That said, that WJHR signal has been coming in stronger than usual lately to the upper-left corner of the U.S. where I'm located. (Of course, when I just checked it now, I couldn't hear it.)
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Glenn Hauser's "World of Radio" (I listen via podcast) talked about this some time ago and indeed concluded they're running a fraction of the 50 kW they're licensed for.
This past week's episode (April 2) includes an account of a listener trying to visit the station's transmitter site and not getting too far before turning around for fear of being shot at.
That said, that WJHR signal has been coming in stronger than usual lately to the upper-left corner of the U.S. where I'm located. (Of course, when I just checked it now, I couldn't hear it.)
Indeed.
https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,48394.0.html
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I am curious as to the mode of this station.
Per the FCC it should be transmitting aural telegraphy, lol
WJHR is authorized to transmit R3A, which is a single sideband mode with reduced or variable carrier, not a totally suppressed carrier. Curiously, the 'A' designator should be aural telegraphy, not voice and music. Indeed, I can see the carrier, and so the mode is in reality R3E, the 'E' defining voice and/or music. In fact the full FCC authorized mode is 4K50R3A, where the '4K50' defines 4.5 kHz as the authorized bandwidth.
https://transition.fcc.gov/ib/sand/neg/hf_web/WJHR.txt
;D
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They're still out out there. I found their weak signal about 2100 today. S5 with fading into western New York. I'm still wondering why they're using USB.