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General Category => General Radio Discussion => Topic started by: Strange Beacons on July 24, 2018, 0238 UTC

Title: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: Strange Beacons on July 24, 2018, 0238 UTC
Posted on my Twitter feed today: Full text of the Pirate Radio Act (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5709/text).

(To amend the Communications Act of 1934 to provide for enhanced penalties for pirate radio, and for other purposes).

W9SPY/Curt

Edit: Fixed broken link
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: redhat on July 24, 2018, 0501 UTC
Your link doesn't work.

Text here.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr5709/text (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr5709/text)

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Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on July 24, 2018, 1231 UTC
It passed the House https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5709/actions

"07/23/2018   Passed/agreed to in House: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by voice vote."

The technique used is commonly used to pass non-controversial bills that that broad support. There was no actual vote by each congressman. Now we have to follow it in the Senate. Considering how quickly it passed in the House, and with no opposition, I suspect the odds are high it will make it through the Senate and become law.
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: MDK2 on July 24, 2018, 1458 UTC
Who says there's gridlock in Washington?  :P
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: PresentedIn4D on July 24, 2018, 1514 UTC
Interesting that the text says
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The term pirate radio broadcasting means the transmission of communications on spectrum frequencies between 535 to 1705 kHz or 87.7 to 108 MHz without a license issued by the Federal Communications Commission, but does not include unlicensed operations in compliance with part 15 of title 47, Code of Federal Regulations.

So this does not affect shortwave pirates?
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: TheRelayStation on July 24, 2018, 1554 UTC
the Communications Act of 1934 will apply to all illegal unlicensed radio transmissions outside of the FM/AM broadcast band.
the amended HR 5709 bill to the Communications Act of 1934 will apply to pirates broadcasting in the FM/AM broadcast band.
both have differences in their procedures and levied fine amounts.
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: Josh on July 24, 2018, 1737 UTC
"between 535 to 1705 kHz or 87.7 to 108 MHz"

Cat's outta the bag now. This will be used in court to protect hf piracy.
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: Strange Beacons on July 24, 2018, 1811 UTC
Your link doesn't work.

Text here.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr5709/text (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr5709/text)

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Fixed it. Thanks for the head's up.  :)
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: KaySeeks on July 24, 2018, 2314 UTC
"between 535 to 1705 kHz or 87.7 to 108 MHz"

Cat's outta the bag now. This will be used in court to protect hf piracy.

Again, the new act does not renounce The Communications Act of 1934; it simply strengthens the penalties and fines for operating in the AM and FM bands. It does not say that HF pirates are now, all the sudden, acceptable.

I'm not sure why you say it will be used to "protect" HF pirates.
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: JimIO on July 25, 2018, 0447 UTC
Are 520, 530 and 1710 OK? Those are on my AM radio.
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on July 25, 2018, 1451 UTC
Are 520, 530 and 1710 OK? Those are on my AM radio.

OK in that you only get a $100,000 fine, not a $2,000,000 fine.
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: redhat on July 25, 2018, 1459 UTC
This "law" (if enacted) is not in the public interest, it's in the private special-interest

And that would differ from which piece of legislation passed in the last 100 or so years?

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Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: KaySeeks on July 25, 2018, 1743 UTC
And that would differ from which piece of legislation passed in the last 100 or so years?

 ;) Now THAT'S a hot take....
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: Josh on July 25, 2018, 1758 UTC
"between 535 to 1705 kHz or 87.7 to 108 MHz"

Cat's outta the bag now. This will be used in court to protect hf piracy.

Again, the new act does not renounce The Communications Act of 1934; it simply strengthens the penalties and fines for operating in the AM and FM bands. It does not say that HF pirates are now, all the sudden, acceptable.

I'm not sure why you say it will be used to "protect" HF pirates.

Because you can't have two definitions for the same act?
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: TheRelayStation on July 25, 2018, 1816 UTC
"between 535 to 1705 kHz or 87.7 to 108 MHz"

Cat's outta the bag now. This will be used in court to protect hf piracy.

Again, the new act does not renounce The Communications Act of 1934; it simply strengthens the penalties and fines for operating in the AM and FM bands. It does not say that HF pirates are now, all the sudden, acceptable.

I'm not sure why you say it will be used to "protect" HF pirates.

Because you can't have two definitions for the same act?
unless the definition for a specific "act" is defined in the amended bill and as in this case, the amended "act" and definition is for the FM/AM broadcast band.
this changes nothing for pirating in the HF band as far as im concerned but does significantly change things for those pirating in the FM/AM broadcast band.
like the news media, its fear that is being pushed, since it is now much easier for the justice department to go after the individual(s) and collect these fine amounts since they are now levied at a significantly higher amount than it was historically, but if the individual(s) cannot pay, will the justice department have the authority to place a lien on the accused subject(s) property (house/land/other) or a legal (through federal court) monetary judgement on  and against the individual(s) accused in an attempt to collect the fine amount ?
Title: Re: H.R.5709 - Pirate Radio Act
Post by: Traveling Wave on July 25, 2018, 1836 UTC
"be subject to a fine of not more than $100,000 for each day during which such offense occurs, in accordance with the limit described in subsection (a)."
This means they can fine you any amount but no more than $100K /per day not to exceed $2M total.