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General Category => General Radio Discussion => Topic started by: ChrisSmolinski on January 01, 2019, 2315 UTC

Title: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on January 01, 2019, 2315 UTC: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday if partial government shutdown continues

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/1/18164361/fcc-suspension-partial-federal-government-shutdown
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: Pigmeat on January 02, 2019, 1027 UTC: That means a certain pirate will be taking to the air. Will it be Radio Free Speech or WBNY? Only his sockpuppets know for sure.
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: Josh on January 02, 2019, 2025 UTC: Quote from: Pigmeat on January 02, 2019, 1027 UTC
That means a certain pirate will be taking to the air. Will it be Radio Free Speech or WBNY? Only his sockpuppets know for sure.

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Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: KaySeeks on January 03, 2019, 0633 UTC: Quote
Staff of the FCC Operations Center will handle emergency contacts for agency. Staff of the High Frequency Direction Finding (HFDF) Center will operate the high frequency antenna system used to protect life and property. One management employee will oversee and coordinate regularly with both operations to help identify and respond to imminent threats to life or property.

Likely chasing down someone on 6925 is not priority one. At the same time, if there is no emergency, they might just get bored and do some investigatory work.
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: QRP on January 03, 2019, 1114 UTC: Will the president increase pirate radioactivity? 8)
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: Josh on January 03, 2019, 2203 UTC: Make Pirate Radio Great Again!
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: skeezix on January 04, 2019, 0221 UTC: Quote
Even if operations are partially suspended, the FCC will retain employees to ensure that auctions (like those for 5G spectrum) aren’t disrupted

And they'll be around to protect life & property too. Guess which of these will be their #1 priority...

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Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: KaySeeks on January 04, 2019, 0307 UTC: Quote from: QRP on January 03, 2019, 1114 UTC
Will the president increase pirate radioactivity? 8)

Oh, I think as time goes on there will be more stations like this: https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,43559.msg160866.html#msg160866 (https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,43559.msg160866.html#msg160866)

So, the answer is "yes".
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: R4002 on January 04, 2019, 1409 UTC: Quote from: KaySeeks on January 03, 2019, 0633 UTC
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Staff of the FCC Operations Center will handle emergency contacts for agency. Staff of the High Frequency Direction Finding (HFDF) Center will operate the high frequency antenna system used to protect life and property. One management employee will oversee and coordinate regularly with both operations to help identify and respond to imminent threats to life or property.

Likely chasing down someone on 6925 is not priority one. At the same time, if there is no emergency, they might just get bored and do some investigatory work.

As long as you're not interfering with safety of life services (i.e. jamming the US Coast Guard - of course they have HFDF capabilities too...), US government/military nets or aeronautical frequencies then you're fine. Keeping the safety of life services frequencies clear is their highest priority.

As with previous government shutdowns, I think there has already been an increase in pirate activity. Hard to say if that's also because of the recent holidays or a combination of the two.
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: JimIO on January 04, 2019, 1625 UTC: 5G is a Chinese hoax.
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: KaySeeks on January 04, 2019, 2236 UTC: Quote from: R4002 on January 04, 2019, 1409 UTC

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At the same time, if there is no emergency, they might just get bored and do some investigatory work.
As long as you're not interfering with safety of life services (i.e. jamming the US Coast Guard - of course they have HFDF capabilities too...), US government/military nets or aeronautical frequencies then you're fine. Keeping the safety of life services frequencies clear is their highest priority.

I realize that it was hard to tell but I was joking.

Quote from: R4002 on January 04, 2019, 1409 UTC
As with previous government shutdowns, I think there has already been an increase in pirate activity. Hard to say if that's also because of the recent holidays or a combination of the two.

I agree. I guess that we will find out this weekend?
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: KaySeeks on January 04, 2019, 2240 UTC: Quote from: JimIO on January 04, 2019, 1625 UTC
5G is a Chinese hoax.

Hmmm. I think you are joking but, in case not, Better tell Ericsson, Qualcomm, Verizon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Analog Devices, and a bunch of other similarly non-Chinese companies that tidbit of information.
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: JimIO on January 04, 2019, 2334 UTC: They are all going to say they are working on it. I'm talking about 28Ghz that the FCC is auctioning off. I don't see that happening except for maybe in the largest cities and not for 3-5 years. So what's the rush? (unless the shutdown is going to last for months or years)
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: KaySeeks on January 05, 2019, 0139 UTC: Quote from: JimIO on January 04, 2019, 2334 UTC
They are all going to say they are working on it. I'm talking about 28Ghz that the FCC is auctioning off. I don't see that happening except for maybe in the largest cities and not for 3-5 years. So what's the rush? (unless the shutdown is going to last for months or years)

Yes, given where the equipment suppliers are in their development, I'd say 3-5 years is about right.

I don't know for 100% sure but my feeling is that the licensees want to be sure of exactly what frequencies they will obtain because it affects equipment decisions (i.e., optimizations for a certain band) and given that it takes their equipment suppliers 1-2 years to get final versions from their suppliers, nailing those down soon would seem important.

But also, the FCC does like $$$, don't they?
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: QRP on January 06, 2019, 1738 UTC: Every stable genius will hardly notice any change due to the general noise (QRM)
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: R4002 on January 07, 2019, 1942 UTC: Quote from: JimIO on January 04, 2019, 1625 UTC
5G is a Chinese hoax.

More like a Chinese threat. Same with the general concept of the Internet of Things or IoT. Turning a city into a weapon is pretty easy if everything is networked. Makes it that much easier if everyone's mobile phones have Chinese spyware (literally spyware) pre-installed. Combine that with the proliferation of Russian rootkits on servers. Pretty easy to cyber-attack the United States as a prelude to war or as leverage if the stable genius continues doing things he knows more about than anyone else.

Not to derail the topic or anything. 8)
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: Josh on January 07, 2019, 2219 UTC: Agreed, massive botnets in our future because someone thinks having a networked fridge, dishwasher, or toaster is a good (or profitable) idea.
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: R4002 on January 08, 2019, 1136 UTC: Quote from: Josh on January 07, 2019, 2219 UTC
Agreed, massive botnets in our future because someone thinks having a networked fridge, dishwasher, or toaster is a good (or profitable) idea.

More profitable than good I think. I’ll stick to having the “air gap” between my appliances (aside from mains AC power, of course...but that’s another can of worms).

The Russians have shown their extensive capability to hijack cellular networks and use that capability during wartime...see: Ukraine, etc.

All the more reason to maintain HF and VHF/UHF comms capability and networks that are not part of a massive Chinese botnet.
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: QRP on January 27, 2019, 0900 UTC: Are government shutdowns a potential haven for pirate radio stations?
https://swling.com/blog/2019/01/are-government-shutdowns-a-potential-haven-for-pirate-radio-stations/
Title: Re: FCC says ‘most’ operations will be suspended Thursday
Post by: Josh on January 27, 2019, 1838 UTC: As the pirates tip their hats to Don, Nancy, and Chuck for this latest political theatre.