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General Category => Bacon, BBQ, Beef, And More => Topic started by: ChrisSmolinski on April 08, 2019, 1558 UTC

Title: War On Meat
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on April 08, 2019, 1558 UTC
Curious how the "war on meat", not based on science, started? There's a good interview here with Dr. Gary Fettke.

In a nutshell:
It started with the Temperance Movement in the 19th century, specifically the Seventh Day Adventists, and Dr Kellogg (of the cereal empire) to reduce sexual desire. The Adventists have been heavily involved in nutritional research and publishing related textbooks, all with their vegetarian/vegan viewpoints. Meanwhile encouraging increased consumption of carbohydrates and sugar. They have strongly influenced the development of nutritional guidelines.

https://thefatemperor.com/why-the-war-on-meat-find-out-here-from-dr-gary-belinda-fettke-podcast-16/
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Fansome on April 08, 2019, 1742 UTC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicians_Committee_for_Responsible_Medicine
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Josh on April 08, 2019, 1841 UTC
Dr Kellog was big on enemas, enemas for everyone and for anything! A true miracle cure if there ever was one.

Also, with a zillion calves dead in the Nebraska panhandle due the storms, beef is gonna go up at your friendly grocer.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Pigmeat on April 09, 2019, 1507 UTC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicians_Committee_for_Responsible_Medicine

Good God! Mr. Huntin', Fishin' and Harpoonin' Fansome has gone vegan!

Chuck that Carlisle woman out, the Buddhist bitty, and go get a burger. You've gone soft headed from lack of protein, Al.

Josh, all that dead livestock means hot dog prices are going to drop to 1954 levels. Pass the mustard and chili! There's a silver lining in every dead cow!
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Josh on April 09, 2019, 1726 UTC
The only ngo/charity/mlm I admire more than Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine is Medicines Sans Pantaloons, Doctors Without Pants!
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on April 09, 2019, 2019 UTC
Josh, all that dead livestock means hot dog prices are going to drop to 1954 levels. Pass the mustard and chili! There's a silver lining in every dead cow!

Just in time for the 2019 Hamfest Season
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Fansome on April 10, 2019, 1924 UTC
That Kellogg guy was a real flake.

Dr Kellog was big on enemas, enemas for everyone and for anything! A true miracle cure if there ever was one.

Also, with a zillion calves dead in the Nebraska panhandle due the storms, beef is gonna go up at your friendly grocer.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Pigmeat on April 10, 2019, 2154 UTC
That Kellogg guy was a real flake.

Sorry Al, I don't have the drum kit set up for rimshot.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Fansome on April 11, 2019, 0114 UTC
Somebody set up us the bomb.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Pigmeat on April 11, 2019, 0952 UTC
That didn't make a lot of sense, Al, but I'll back you all the way. That's how most of our adventures start.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Looking-Glass on April 11, 2019, 1603 UTC
The other day a large Vegan Rally down in Melbourne, so many of them chanting, screaming, crying and ranting that they stopped the traffic and trams.  Usual placards and pictures of baby animals and decrying the consumption of meat, saying farmers are the beasts.

Usual radical left wing tree huggers who are largely unemployed and thus have the time to protest, and draining the public purse via unemployment benefits. Couldn't help but notice that the majority of the protestors were very young women, not many males.  Maybe their men folk were watching from MacDonalds whilst eating a triple beef burger? 8)
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: JimIO on April 11, 2019, 1830 UTC

"Usual radical left wing tree huggers who are largely unemployed and thus have the time to protest, and draining the public purse via unemployment benefits."

So AM talk radio sounds the same in AU as it does in USA.   ::)
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Josh on April 11, 2019, 2211 UTC
That didn't make a lot of sense, Al, but I'll back you all the way. That's how most of our adventures start.

If you played counter strike 1.6, it's gospel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9otm-Pn75Hs
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Skipmuck on April 11, 2019, 2228 UTC
tree huggers

I kinda like trees....they make good supports for antennas......
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Josh on April 11, 2019, 2332 UTC
The other day a large Vegan Rally down in Melbourne, so many of them chanting, screaming, crying and ranting that they stopped the traffic and trams.  Usual placards and pictures of baby animals and decrying the consumption of meat, saying farmers are the beasts.

Usual radical left wing tree huggers who are largely unemployed and thus have the time to protest, and draining the public purse via unemployment benefits. Couldn't help but notice that the majority of the protestors were very young women, not many males.  Maybe their men folk were watching from MacDonalds whilst eating a triple beef burger? 8)

I don't know if he has operations where you are, but here soros employs them, paying far more for their presence at protests than they could ever make per hour at any job they would actually qualify for. Then they're bused to the next city to suffer their odor.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: JimIO on April 12, 2019, 0026 UTC
Soros is a globalist, so the same in AU as in USA.   ::)
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Looking-Glass on April 12, 2019, 1647 UTC
Yes, often the same scruffy faces are seen at alternative protests/demos, commonly referred to as "Rent-A-Crowd"... ;)
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on April 12, 2019, 1822 UTC
I'm all for people advocating their positions on diets, especially if they have some facts to share. But draw the line at trying to restrict my choices, not to mention outright violence, which only seems to happen with certain groups. I may be wrong, but I don't recall hearing about a bunch of bacon eating keto eaters burning down a vegan tofu factory.  ;D

Which brings me to lunch today. The store had NY strip roasts on sale, so I cut it into four thick slices, roasted one in a slow 225F oven, then seared in a pan with some butter. Medium rare, of course:

(https://i.imgur.com/yY1HsuH.jpg)
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: JimIO on April 12, 2019, 1958 UTC
I haven't seen a environmental terrorist story in the news since at least a hundred mass shootings ago...    :P

Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on April 12, 2019, 2010 UTC
I haven't seen a environmental terrorist story in the news since at least a hundred mass shootings ago...    :P

You must have missed the news from Australia a few days ago:  ;)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/08/animal-rights-activists-block-melbourne-cbd-amid-protests-at-abattoirs-around-australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-08/tougher-laws-for-animal-rights-activists-amid-plans-for-protest/10979204
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: JimIO on April 12, 2019, 2036 UTC
What part of that was violent?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3lNKh3UYAA8x9m.jpg
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Pigmeat on April 12, 2019, 2052 UTC
I enjoyed the ones who spent months in tents year round on plywood platforms in redwoods in the Northwest. It was a foolish thing to do, hurricane force winds and torrential snow and rain in the winter, but I gave them points for guts and dedication. One slip when you're pulling supplies up from the support team and that's the end of you.

I didn't like the tree spiking types. Logging is dangerous enough without someone who thinks they're the "Guardian of The Woods" spiking trees and causing one of those heavy duty chainsaws to kick back and cut the operator in half. It's hard to tell how many of the randomly spiked booby-trapped trees are still out there waiting to kill a guy who's just trying to make a living.

Now the PETA girls who would paint their nude bodies like various animals and appear in public places? That should be encouraged.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on April 12, 2019, 2143 UTC
What part of that was violent?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3lNKh3UYAA8x9m.jpg

It wasn't just people carrying signs (that would be perfectly fine), they also broke into meat processing companies.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: Josh on April 12, 2019, 2149 UTC
It's ok for the antifascists to do the same things as fascists yet fancy themselves as antifascists, the end justifies the means you know.
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: JimIO on April 12, 2019, 2218 UTC
Josh, if you want to compare fascists to antifascists start by naming some.

Edit:

Make a list,   antifascists on the left   8)   fascists on the right    :D
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on April 13, 2019, 1225 UTC
Some good news, support for the "EAT Lancet" diet proposal, which promoted essentially forcing the world's population to adopt a nearly meat free diet, is collapsing. 

"In a press release, the “permanent mission,” as the office is known, also suggested the report was not sufficiently independent, and aimed for nothing less than the “total elimination of the freedom of choice” by consumers."

“There are few exceptions, but the status of epidemiological literature is not at a level to allow us to make these types of very detailed, specific recommendations,” Ioannidis tells me. For that reason, the health claims in the EAT-Lancet diet are “science fiction. I can’t call it anything else.”

https://newfoodeconomy.org/world-health-organization-drops-its-high-profile-endorsement-of-the-eat-lancet-diet/
Title: Re: War On Meat
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on April 13, 2019, 1226 UTC
Make a list,   antifascists on the left   8)   fascists on the right    :D

Here I am, Stuck in the middle with you  :)