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General Category => General Radio Discussion => Topic started by: ChrisSmolinski on December 13, 2019, 1138 UTC

Title: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on December 13, 2019, 1138 UTC
Doesn't look quite like a weather balloon / radiosonde to me. Maybe one of the ham radio balloons? Or some other research project? Ideas?

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We found this while hiking in a remote part of the desert west of Phoenix. I think it could be air pressure and other sensors and transmitter from a weather balloon. But my searches don't pull up similar stuff.
The whole thing:

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Full article: https://www.bikeforums.net/foo/1190006-found-az-desert.html?fbclid=IwAR1aTdINFbdI1ATCHHN1-3V1sccILQuUqueThYDwqnRmM2hgg9v2S1SVegQ#post21243649
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: JCMaxwell on December 13, 2019, 1234 UTC
FWIW looks like Ghidora makes gas sensors.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Fansome on December 13, 2019, 1940 UTC
Perhaps part of the program to detect chemical and biological attacks.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Josh on December 13, 2019, 2323 UTC
Doesn't look like all of it was present.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Pigmeat on December 13, 2019, 2359 UTC
Now Al, you know that's a high altitude penguin detector.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Fansome on December 14, 2019, 0104 UTC
You know better than that, Pigmeat. Penguins can't fly, so there's no such thing as a "high altitude penguin".

Now Al, you know that's a high altitude penguin detector.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: redhat on December 14, 2019, 0301 UTC
It's probably been there a while, judging from the corrosion and date codes on the parts.  My guess is some ham radio balloon thing.

+-RH
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Pigmeat on December 14, 2019, 0424 UTC
You know better than that, Pigmeat. Penguins can't fly, so there's no such thing as a "high altitude penguin".

Now Al, you know that's a high altitude penguin detector.

Says the man who was raving about flying penguins buzzing his trailer while on the roof looking for Santa this time last year.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Josh on December 14, 2019, 1959 UTC
It's probably been there a while, judging from the corrosion and date codes on the parts.  My guess is some ham radio balloon thing.

+-RH

I was thinking mil/gov as it seems similar to the mil electronics I've been into as far as construction and materials, teflon silver coax, fibreglass pcb, etc, compare it to the throw away radiosondes of today.

All I know for sure is if that thing was found by me it'd be in the back of my truck and out of the ao pronto. Kinda like that fool who found the end of a Russian sub trailing wire antenna on the beach and told everyone.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Strange Beacons on December 15, 2019, 1538 UTC
Looking at the dents and dings in the equipment seems to indicate that it may have possibly fallen from a great height. So, weather balloon? Or some sort of other radio experiment aloft?
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Pigmeat on December 15, 2019, 2141 UTC
That's what I was thinking, SB, but it's been nearly 50 years I've seen one of the things? The one I saw still had an attached but partially inflated balloon and a pack of kids hanging on to it as it crossed a pasture pulling it down. It had a brass plate with the return address of the NOAA on it.
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on December 16, 2019, 1314 UTC
FWIW, the radiosondes I have seen are all very light weight, with styrofoam and cardboard housings, certainly not a metal chassis, to keep the weight down.  This seems too beefy to be a radiosonde?
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Traveling Wave on December 16, 2019, 1829 UTC
This doesn't solve the mystery but the yellowish nameplate is marked ISOTEMP Research Inc., and OCX0131-2 is also marked on the nameplate. An OCXO is an oven-controlled crystal oscillator. This type of oscillator achieves the highest frequency stability possible with a crystal.  Attached is an ISOTEMP data sheet for the OCXO 131 Series device ...http://www.isotemp.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/OCXO-131.pdf
Title: Re: Found in the AZ desert
Post by: Josh on December 16, 2019, 1950 UTC
Some high detail pics of the boards might help suss out what each board does. Also the date codes on any chips will tell us when they were made. Not very clandestine if the lettering/nomenclature is visible, so prolly not a nsa/cia thingy.