HFU HF Underground

Technical Topics => The RF Workbench => Topic started by: moof on May 21, 2016, 1817 UTC

Title: what would make a box not like certain crystals?
Post by: moof on May 21, 2016, 1817 UTC
Let's say I have 2 grenade style boxes and x number of WWII crystals all the same frequency. All work perfectly in box #1 with close to 10 watts from the IRF510.  In box #2, half are associated with power close to 10 watts, half get anywhere from a couple needlewidths of power to about 1 watt.  Any suggestions of what components to mess with?  About all I can guess to start is mess with the nice mica caps right before the antenna output and see if jacking around the values +/- 50-100 pF fixes things for the bad crystals yet makes the good crystal output suffer a bit.  I already optimized those when I built the boxes.  Theoretically speaking.
Title: Re: what would make a box not like certain crystals?
Post by: Stretchyman on May 23, 2016, 1448 UTC
The osc section of box 2 sounds dodgy.

Do you have a 'scope?

Having one would be most useful.

Str.
Title: Re: what would make a box not like certain crystals?
Post by: moof on May 23, 2016, 2307 UTC
No.  Don't have a couple hundred bucks laying around and don't have much of an electrical background.  Read some books and figured stuff out.
So check connections and component values with multimeter where possible I guess in the oscillator area.  Maybe try to replace a few bits I can't test.
Thanks for input.
Title: Re: what would make a box not like certain crystals?
Post by: Stretchyman on May 24, 2016, 0637 UTC
Get a 'scope, you don't need an 'Electrical Background' but you will be able to 'See' what's going on.

What you're dealing with is invisible!

 ;)
Title: Re: what would make a box not like certain crystals?
Post by: redhat on May 28, 2016, 0257 UTC
Sounds like box # 2 has a weak oscillator transistor, or something isn't right on the crystal loading side.

...Also something I wouldn't tackle without a scope.  I've been using one for so long, I can't imagine not having one.


Good luck grasshopper!

+-RH