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Loggings => Utility => Topic started by: Traveling Wave on March 06, 2017, 1632 UTC

Title: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: Traveling Wave on March 06, 2017, 1632 UTC
What is the normal message traffic for 11175 kHz. I have heard five 47 character messages since 1550 UTC .
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: manfred on March 07, 2017, 1211 UTC
It`s difficult to say what`s normal , i`ve heard messages with less than 30 Characters .
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: Josh on March 07, 2017, 1851 UTC
It varies but when the count is 130 or so something's going on somewhere, either hostilities or a exercise.
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: MDK2 on March 07, 2017, 1945 UTC
You only need to worry if you hear them say "wing attack, plan R."
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: Traveling Wave on March 07, 2017, 2230 UTC
Good one !  ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8qCkVklFWE
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: Pigmeat on March 08, 2017, 1229 UTC
Believe it or not I've heard the occasional Europirate using this frequency and not too long ago, the past two-three years. I think they got advice from that Assange guy who wrote the classic book  "How To Piss Off A Superpower And Spend Two Years Hiding In An Embassy."
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: Josh on March 08, 2017, 1731 UTC
I heard Serbs jamming triple one seven five during the klinton war on Serbia but never privateers.
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: Pigmeat on March 09, 2017, 0638 UTC
They weren't there but a couple of broadcasts after they announced they were using the frequency on one of the Europirate sites. I think it was Ali's old BB? They were warned there, too.

I want to say they moved up around the old Farmers From Holland frequency of 11440.
Title: Re: USAF 11175 kHz USB 1630 UTC 6 Mar. 2017
Post by: Token on March 11, 2017, 0151 UTC
There really is no real "normal" for the HF-GCS network.  Further, what becomes normal changes with time.  Coded messages might range from 9 chars (the shortest one I have in my logs, anyway) to over 250.  Similarly, there might be more than a dozen transmissions in an hour or there might be less than one.

Listeners like to make a big deal out of certain callsigns, how many times an hour messages are sent, or how many chars are in a message.  In reality there just is nothing to be made of these things.

Many messages in a short period might mean something is going on someplace, or it might simply mean they are doing training someplace, and it does not have to be one of the big name announced training exercises.  Personally I suspect the only thing that really has any meaning, however small, is exceptionally long messages.  I just doubt they will throw padding (extra nonsense information added to a message to obscure it or completely meaningless transmissions sent to foil traffic analysis attempts) on such long messages all that often.

However, I will tell you, sometimes it is also informal "training".  Maybe not on the main HF-GCS freqs, but on the discretes I would not be surprised.  I once sent a 220 character message in a format similar to the EAMs of today on an Echo Whiskey net in the Pacific.  And got a similarly long response in return.  I am sure any listeners would have thought "these guys must be talking about something important".  What we were passing was details on where to meet and what to do when we got to the PI, because liberty is an important feature in any sailors life.

T!