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General Category => Huh? => Topic started by: MDK2 on May 18, 2017, 1252 UTC
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Chris Cornell, the powerful, dynamic singer whose band Soundgarden was one of the architects of grunge music, has died at 52.
Mr. Cornell died Wednesday night in Detroit, said his representative, Brian Bumbery, in a statement that called the death “sudden and unexpected” and that said the singer’s family would be “working closely with the medical examiner to determine the cause.”
Mr. Cornell was born in 1964 in Seattle and helped form Soundgarden 20 years later. Sub Pop, then a fledgling record label, released the group’s first single, “Hunted Down,” in 1987, as well as two subsequent EPs. The group’s debut album, “Ultramega OK,” came a year later.
More:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/arts/music/chris-cornell-dead-soundgarden.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbckIuT_YDc
I guess I can forgive him for having anything to do with ratm now he's passed on.
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Does this mean we can have our black hole sun spots back?
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R.I.P. Chris Cornell. Apparent suicide, you will be missed. One of the best screams ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC2GjXMk7i4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNh-iw7gsuI
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Suicide or O.D.? Apparently they've been touring. A lot of ex-junkies decide to take a taste after years of abstinence and that's all it takes. Lack of tolerance makes what used to be a low to moderate dose for them deadly.
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I actually just saw him recently at the Rockville Fest (Soundgarden was the main reason I went) and they put on an excellent show - my first & last time to see him.
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I saw Soundgarden at Lollapalooza back in the 90's. Incredible show and Cornell melted faces off with his voice. Sad we lost him.
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Suicide or O.D.? Apparently they've been touring. A lot of ex-junkies decide to take a taste after years of abstinence and that's all it takes. Lack of tolerance makes what used to be a low to moderate dose for them deadly.
I don't think it was a Mike Huchence but the result was the same.
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Suicide or O.D.? Apparently they've been touring. A lot of ex-junkies decide to take a taste after years of abstinence and that's all it takes. Lack of tolerance makes what used to be a low to moderate dose for them deadly.
As Neil Young said: "every junkie's like a setting sun".
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Neilo knew enough of them to know, FPE. Back about '05 a guy I knew who'd come back from a stint in the Air Force in Thailand badly strung out in the early 70's went out with that "just a little taste" syndrome after being clean since '78. Nodded off on the couch and never came to.
I still can't imagine Neil and Rick James in the same band. I wonder how they found their way to gigs? It's probably how they made that wrong turn and ended up in the States where it was revealed Rick was a deserter from the Army. I'd have loved to been in the car behind them to hear the original "Toxic Twins" try to talk their way out of that one.
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What little I've heard Cornell was dealing with depression and may have been on an antidepressant that perhaps backfired.
People in the Seattle area are fairly crushed.... At least those of us that were around when Soundgarden and the other bands were taking off in the late 80's/early 90's.
Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley... Now Mr. Cornell.
RIP Mr. Cornell, and thanks for politely signing my Superunknown CD out in front of the Sit And Spin that one overcast afternoon. You were one of a kind.
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Ah, the Sit N Spin. I arrived in Seattle just in time to catch a few shows there. I think it closed up in 1999. I also got to see some shows at RKCNDY before they bulldozed that for some ugly development.
I got to follow the Seattle scene vicariously from Denver when it was going down, because The Fluid, Sub Pop's first non-Seattle signing, was from here and was naturally my favorite local act. So they got to play with those bands as they were up and coming, and as Sub Pop was building its image. We got to hear stories about how Soundgarden would ask the guys from Danzig, whom they toured with in 1990, to shoot some hoops at some stop, but Danzig refusing because he wanted the band members as pale as possible. No time in the sun, ever! And we saw those bands play small venues before they hit it big. Anyway, that whole scene was spent by the time I decided to move there. Cobain had been gone for three years, Soundgarden had broken up, and pretty much everyone else had moved to California or wherever. Only Mudhoney were still around, and the dominant band in town at this time was Modest Mouse, while Death Cab For Cutie was just getting off the ground. The Rocket folded around the same time as the Sit N Spin, which was a shame because the other alt weeklies failed to fill that void.
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True enough, the Rocket was THE local music paper. The Stranger attempts to fill the void, but fail. Their most recent issue has three photos of Cornell, and 1.5 articles. So much for any tribute to the legacy.
I was never part of the scene, but was always around it somehow. The music was everywhere, especially downtown, even in the strip clubs.
I was at KCMU (the alternative college station at the UW) when all those bands had their first demos and singles played locally. Never saw a show, though. :-( Living in the suburbs, I never really was into seeing shows much.
I saw New American Shame play several times, though. They were a punkish version of AC/DC-style rockers that toured with The Cult, and they played numerous shows in the area -- Bumbershoot, Planet Hot Rod, Sit N Spin, the Crocodile. It was the closest I got to really feeling the scene as it played out later in the 1990's. I saw Truly play -- Hiro Yamamoto's band with Robert Roth. And a couple other local original bands from the latter part of the decade, at the Croc or the Off Ramp -- bands like the Shinola and Redneck Girlfriend that didn't make it big but their music was still pretty good.
By the time you got here, Seattle was still Seattle but things were already changing. The city just kept getting bigger and bigger. If you returned now, you would barely recognise anything, especially in Belltown where the grunge scene seemed to be centered when it was big. Belltown is all high-rises. Downtown reeks of big money now. Not that it's necessarily bad, but the character has changed.
Shit, everything's changed since the 90's. Never thought I'd miss that decade.
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A lot of that was underway by the time we left in 2005. I remember going to the Rendezvous when it was a genuine dive. It was already turning into a hipster joint, but there were some genuine Bukowski-type barflies around. I remember there being a park in Belltown on Third that was really seedy when I arrived, and was a dogpark when I left. I think you're right, I'd probably not recognize much of what's still there.
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If you watch the vid I posted the url to, it shows him hanging from a phone cord around his neck kinda like how he killed himself, as well as singing the lyrics;
"The Day I Tried To Live"
I woke the same as any other day
Except a voice was in my head
It said seize the day, pull the trigger, drop the blade
And watch the rolling heads
The day I tried to live
I stole a thousand beggar's change
And gave it to the rich
The day I tried to win
I dangled from the power lines
And let the martyrs stretch
Singing
One more time around
Might do it
One more time around
Might make it
One more time around
Might do it
One more time around
The day I tried to live
The part about pulling the trigger might signify suicide, while the part about one more time around might signify a belief in reincarnation. But who knows, can't ask him now.
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There was a lot of that in the music. He wrote songs with titles like "Pretty Noose" and "Like Suicide" that make it real tempting to play armchair psychologist and speculate just how long he had been thinking about it.
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Mt question is was he murdered by some micromanaging bitch like Kurt or did he off himself.
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Toxicology report;
http://people.com/music/chris-cornell-toxicology-report-reveals-prescription-drugs/
I was expecting him to be on an antidepressant. You know, the modern antidepressants that state right on the little sheet of paper that the use of the medication may instill thoughts of suicide or homicide? How is that an antidepressant?
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I read an interview with him, can't remember when it was, I think it was around Superunknown or thereabouts, where he said there weren't many times since his youth that he wasn't depressed to a certain degree. If I remember correctly, he said that's where a lot of the music came from, the feeling of it.
RE Day I Tried To Live, I think that was in response to Kurt Cobain's death, or possibly Andrew Wood's addiction / death. I think during the same interview, Cornell alluded to something of that nature...
The tone of the music and lyrics of Soundgarden's music always struck me as something other than suicidal in nature, I thought Cornell would live forever.... Just had a fighter quality about his persona, but obviously, there was a lot going on inside him that was hard to figure, and now such songs as Pretty Noose have a different feel to them.
I used to sing that song in karaoke, and do a decent job of it. I don't think I'll be able to sing it for a while, because of the words....
RE: the toxicology. I wonder how much of the barbiturates was due to needing sleep? I.e. a sleep medication, as opposed to misuse? From reading the article, it looks like it may have been a mishap, and the side effects led him to do something maybe he wouldn't otherwise have done. I guess we'll never truly know.