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Loggings => Longwave Loggings => Topic started by: pinto vortando on December 14, 2017, 1927 UTC
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Some Canadian NDBs heard here recently with cool sounding names:
201 GL La Grande Riviere QC
224 MO Moosonee ON
244 DG Chute des Passes Dangereuses QC
256 YXN Whale Cove NU
328 YTL Big Trout Lake ON
329 YEK Eskimo Point NU
340 YY Mont Joli QC
341 YYU Kapuskasing ON
344 YGV Harve St. Pierre QC
346 YXL Sioux Lookout ON
351 YKQ Fort Rupert QC
371 GW Great Whale River QC
Bunch more exotic sounding ones in NWT still trying to DX.
Thank you Canadians for keeping your NDBs in service.
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Some awesome names there!
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some Canadian NDBs heard here 12-6 & 12-17
206 QI Yarmouth NS
208 YSK Sanikiluaq NU
209 IB Atikokan ON
230 YBM St. Bruno de Guigues QC
254 5B Summerside PEI
261 2H Lebel sur Quevillon
275 R1 Thetford Mines QC
332 YFM La Grande 4 QC
341 ZLP Toronto ON
373 2Q Mont Laurier QC
382 7P Iroquois Falls ON
391 3B Brockville ON
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Some Canadian NDBs 12-23-17 1000-1100Z
Heard only one Maritime, 254 5B Summerside PEI.
Best QC DX, 323 KR Schefferville and 360 PN Port Menier.
Best ON DX, 334 Fort Severn.
Otherwise, the action was all from the Prairies this morning:
244 TH Thompson MB
248 WG Winnipeg MB
250 FO Flin Flon MB
284 QD The Pas MB
317 VC LaRonge SK
370 YBV Berens River MB
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12-24-17
Several Maritimes and a NU this morning.
206 QI Yarmouth NS
208 YSK Sanikiluaq NU
254 5B Summerside PE
350 DF Deer Lake NL
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Double hat trick ! 12-25-17 early afternoon
Got the 3 NDBs at Hamilton: 221 HM, 266 ZHM, and 397 ZHA.
Also the 3 NDBs at Toronto (Pearson Intl.): 341 ZLP, 368 ZYZ, and 403 ZTO. (385 ZDH apparently decommissioned).
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12-27-17 0510-0520Z
Coast to coast DX !
364 ZHZ Halifax NS
400 QQ Comox BC
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12-28-17 1220Z
Really The Great White North
350 RB Resolute Bay NU
We are experiencing record low temps here in MI.
It was colder here (-10F) than there (-8F) at 1200Z. ???
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All along the St. Lawrence
263 YGK Kingston ON
336 BV Quebec City QC
340 YY Mont Joli QC
344 YGV Harve St.Pierre QC
360 PN Port Menier QC
373 YXK Rimouski QC
392 ML LaMalbaie QC
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I notice that Port Asbestos is no longer operational since Buzz Sherwood moved to California to take advantage of the loosening of laws on medicinal plants.
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1-13-18 1010 - 1130Z
Heard both NDBs at London ON: 201 ZXU and 382 XU.
Heard both NDBs at Sudbury ON: 344 ZSB and 362 SB.
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Good thing that YXL (
Sioux Lookout) is not in the U.S., or they would be required to change their name.
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I notice that Port Asbestos is no longer operational
Looks like you may be right, can't seem to find an approved published approach for Port Asbestos. ;)
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Good thing that YXL (Sioux Lookout) is not in the U.S., or they would be required to change their name.
Shhhh... don't tell anybody but...
414 SU Sioux City IA
368 SOY Sioux Center IA (this one has been miskeying as SOO)
245 FS Sioux Falls SD
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Good thing that YXL (Sioux Lookout) is not in the U.S., or they would be required to change their name.
Shhhh... don't tell anybody but...
414 SU Sioux City IA
368 SOY Sioux Center IA (this one has been miskeying as SOO)
245 FS Sioux Falls SD
You got me curious as to why a town in northwest Ontario would be named "Sioux" since AFAIK this is Ojibway territory. Some quick research shows that this location was probably an Ojibway "lookout" for advancing Sioux.
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I once had a girlfriend who was from the far S.W. corner of Minnesota. The two nearest big towns were Sioux Falls, SD. and Sioux City, IA. She had sisters that lived in both and the entire bunch of those girls sounded the same to me with those twangy full vowel accents.
I'd advise you to stay far away from those beacons. The women are good looking but they all sound the same. It can cause confusion when you call to talk to your sweetie on her visit home and there is more than one of them in the house.
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I once had a girlfriend who was from the far S.W. corner of Minnesota... I'd advise you to stay far away from those beacons. The women are good looking but they all sound the same.
Interesting that the women all (seemingly) must have spoken in CW. Did any of them have a better fist than the other? Was one better at straight key than the others? It's OK to tell me these private details. No one else is here reading them.
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BC has been scarce here in MI this season but 359 YQZ Quesnel and 368 ZP Sandspit showed up early this morning.
Speaking of season... enjoy it while you can as the T-storm static is coming back. Lots of crashes yesterday morning with activity in TX, LA, MS and again this morning with action in the FL panhandle and west along the Gulf coast.
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Some Canadian DX heard here recently:
212 YGX Gillam MB
212 SJ St. John NB
232 GP Gaspe QC
269 UDE Delta MB
280 QX Gander NL
385 WL Williams Lake BC
390 JT Stephenville NL
520 F9 Miramichi NB
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254 5B Summerside PEI was booming in here early this morning but strangely the only Maritime in the log book for today. ???
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Some late season NDB action over the Easter weekend.
Most of the activity was out West:
212 YGX Gillam MB
248 WG Winnipeg MB
284 QD The Pas MB
287 ZWG Winnipeg MB
290 QR Regina SK
305 YQ Churchill MB
317 VC LaRonge SK
350 NY Enderby BC
368 ZP Sandspit BC
370 YBV Berens River MB
385 QV Yorkton SK
Maritimes:
212 SJ St. John NB
254 5B Summerside PE
North:
208 YSK Sanikiluaq NU
323 KR Schefferville QC
334 YER Fort Severn ON
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Lots of QRN this morning but managed to log a new one for me.
388 MM Ft. McMurray AB
Surprisingly good DX (1500+mi) for this time of year. :)
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MM is a nice log for this time of year, pv!
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Heard 390 JT Stephenville NL (1250 mi) about an hour before sunrise here this morning... interesting given that they would be in daylight.
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You got me curious as to why a town in northwest Ontario would be named "Sioux" since AFAIK this is Ojibway territory. Some quick research shows that this location was probably an Ojibway "lookout" for advancing Sioux.
Yes sir and also MI's Upper Peninsula. Ojibwa/Chippewa territory. Ironically then, SAULT STE. MARIE, MI...that's in CHIPPEWA County.
Why is it that we all live in the same place?
"Theeeere is a town...in north Ontario-ooh..." 8)
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Yes sir and also MI's Upper Peninsula. Ojibwa/Chippewa territory. Ironically then, SAULT STE. MARIE, MI...that's in CHIPPEWA County.
Why is it that we all live in the same place?
"Theeeere is a town...in north Ontario-ooh..." 8)
If my ancient memory can remember my high school French from many ages ago, "sault" is French for "rapids" as in a river. Although it is pronounced "soo".
Do you use that Satellit 750 for longwave? How does it work out for you?
How's the DX in the U.P. ? Does all that copper in the ground help or hurt reception?
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Well you're right about the French word! My mistake.
I haven't checked out TOO much LW but I just saved all these frequencies to see if I can pull em in sumtime. I have heard several beacons and I'd like to learn Morse code so I figure I'll try to copy sum NBDs! Also pretty close to Canada. Question:
●what does it mean to be "non-directional"? Don't the beacons come from a fixed location? What is their purpose?
● I'm hearing (24/7) a beacon on 335 KHz. I think it's NOT coming from 328 or 341 bcuz it's clear when I set BANDWIDTH to NARROW...smack dab on 335 KHz, with ANTENNA pointed WEST from my location.
AND, that beacon 335 KHz...is it saying 'QT'? Cuz that's what I hear and I'm just learning basic Morse code
●Oh and my Grundig has a 3.5mm port for "LW/MW ANTENNA"...it attaches to the 360° rotatable ferrite antenna. What's the deal w that? Is there a good antenna I can attach for LW/MW?
hey sry I didn't respond to ur msg until now. I've been enjoying perusing other areas of this awesome website
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The beacons send the Morse slowly enough that you can write down the dots and dashes and decode it later. In fact, most pilots don't know Morse. The dots and dashes are printed out for them on various navigational charts next to the beacon location. However, learning Morse (called CW by Hams) can be rewarding. Go to the ARRL website and look up the W1AW code practice schedule. They transmit code practice sessions every evening on various frequencies. They put in a good signal here usually on 40 meters 7047.5 khz. Put your 750 in SSB mode and fine tune in the code with the BFO knob.
NDB stands for "Non-Directional Beacon" which actually means that the beacon transmits in a pattern equally in all directions. They are used for aeronautical navigation. The aircraft is equipped with a radio called an ADF (automatic direction finder) that when tuned to the beacon frequency drives an instrument with a pointer that points the direction to the station. This technology has been around for a long time and has been largely superceded by newer technologies the most recent being GPS. Therefore, many NDBs have been and are being phased out. Enjoy them while you can.
That beacon QT that you are hearing is a Canadian across the Lake from you located in Thunder Bay Ontario. It actually transmits on 332. From your location you are well positioned to be able to hear lots of Canadian beacons. Fortunately, the Canadians have not been phasing out their beacons as much as in the U.S. Often, the NDB is the only navigational aid available at many very remote Canadian airstrips.
However, you will need a good antenna to get the most out of your 750. That rotatable ferrite will pull in only the strongest nearest signals. The nice thing about the 750 though, as you have noticed, is the ability to connect an external antenna to the 3.5 mm jack on the ferrite bar. Go to the Universal Radio website and get a mono-mini to SO-239 adapter (their part #1619) that will plug into the 3.5 mm port. Get a pre-assembled RG-8X coax with PL-259 connectors on each end. Universal sells them in various lengths from 25' to 100'. The coax will run from the adapter to your antenna. My suggestion would be the EF-SWL antenna (Universal #2205). Or you can homebrew your own antenna with whatever wire you may have around. All kinds of antenna plans on the internet. Just be sure to disconnect the antenna when not in use to protect from lightning damage. (btw, you can also use that EF-SWL antenna for shortwave listening on your 750... get adapter Universal #2122 and connect to the BNC connector labelled SW on the right hand side of the 750 and make sure the INT/EXT antenna switch is in external EXT).
Hope this helps get you started. Any questions, just ask.
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Thnx! Haha yea Thunder Bay...makes perfect sense.
I'm taking a liking to CW...I seem to catch on quick...my father was a HAM...electrical engineer and he was pretty much exclusively CW Dx. He was always taking the sweepstakes...
So I'm enjoying this...I like Morse code. I'm taking a liking to it.
And hell I'm not doing bad! So far I have not misidentified CW traffic. This is right up my alley. I swear--i'll be proficient soon enough!
just wanted to thank ya for the advice and especially the CW practice frequencies!
and btw I was hearing sum of these NDBs just now...
362 KHz 'SB'...Sudbury, ON 8)
I tell ya tho...I'd love to be in Europe with the LW. Is North American LW pretty much just beacons? Does anyone talk in this range?
Anyway I'm pickin up Morse fast. I'm a musician. I know my mother always said she couldn't tell the diff between a dot and a dash. Weird!
Thnx again for your help! I'll be monitoring the NDBs I'll check back with you guy! peace!
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Hmm...if the NDBs are transmitting 360°....not pointed anywhere in particular...why are they called "non-directional" beacons instead of "omni-directional" beacons? :o
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Thnx! Haha yea Thunder Bay...makes perfect sense.
I'm taking a liking to CW...I seem to catch on quick...my father was a HAM...electrical engineer and he was pretty much exclusively CW Dx. He was always taking the sweepstakes...
So I'm enjoying this...I like Morse code. I'm taking a liking to it.
And hell I'm not doing bad! So far I have not misidentified CW traffic. This is right up my alley. I swear--i'll be proficient soon enough!
just wanted to thank ya for the advice and especially the CW practice frequencies!
and btw I was hearing sum of these NDBs just now...
362 KHz 'SB'...Sudbury, ON 8)
I tell ya tho...I'd love to be in Europe with the LW. Is North American LW pretty much just beacons? Does anyone talk in this range?
Anyway I'm pickin up Morse fast. I'm a musician. I know my mother always said she couldn't tell the diff between a dot and a dash. Weird!
Thnx again for your help! I'll be monitoring the NDBs I'll check back with you guy! peace!
Being a musician, CW (Morse) will probably come naturally to you. Worked with an engineer at a TV station once a while ago who could easily copy 30+ wpm. He also had a night time gig at a neighborhood bar as the piano player. This guy could play anything you cared to mention off the top of his head... amazing.
There is no LW broadcasting in the U.S. Pretty much limited to Europe and Africa.
Summer is not the best time for LW DXing. Too much T-storm static in the air. However, beacons can still be heard. Early morning a couple of hours before sunrise is usually best.
Try putting your 750 in SSB mode and tune very slowly and listen very carefully. Headphones are also a big help as many of the signals are very faint.
Plug an external antenna into that jack on the ferrite bar. You will be able to hear many more beacons.
Here are some commonly heard beacons that should be copyable from your location with a good antenna:
245 YZE Gore Bay ON
276 YEL Elliot Lake ON
328 YTL Big Trout Lake ON
329 YHN Hornepayne ON
346 YXL Sioux Lookout ON
379 DL Duluth MN
382 YPL Pickle Lake ON
400 CI Sault Ste. Marie MI
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Hmm...if the NDBs are transmitting 360°....not pointed anywhere in particular...why are they called "non-directional" beacons instead of "omni-directional" beacons? :o
Good question... have wondered about this myself. Apparently a matter of semantics. Nondirectional and omnideirctional essentially mean the same thing in that the signal is transmitted equally in all directions. In actual practice, a low band NDB transmits a signal in all directions but no directional information is contained on the signal. The automatic direction finder (ADF) in the aircraft along with the associated loop and sense antennas figures out the direction to the station and drives a pointer needle on an instrument that points the direction to the station. A VHF Omni station (VOR) also transmits a signal equally in all directions but directional information is placed on the signal. The omni receiving equipment in the aircraft can tell which radial "to" or "from" the station that the aircraft is on. Flying using a NDB requires considerably more skill than that required to use a VOR as it is much more difficult to correct for wind drift when using just a NDB. When using a VOR the pilot just has to keep the aircraft on the VOR radial. With the NDB, there is no radial. Although both NDBs and VORs transmit equally in all directions, the subtle difference is that the NDB transmits no directional information whereas the VOR does. Both NDBs and VORs are gradually disappearing as GPS replaces them.
Anyway, hope this all isn't too confusing. There are plenty of books and information on the internet that can explain this way better than me.
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The beacons send the Morse slowly enough that you can write down the dots and dashes and decode it later. In fact, most pilots don't know Morse. The dots and dashes are printed out for them on various navigational charts next to the beacon location. However, learning Morse (called CW by Hams) can be rewarding. Go to the ARRL website and look up the W1AW code practice schedule. They transmit code practice sessions every evening on various frequencies. They put in a good signal here usually on 40 meters 7047.5 khz. Put your 750 in SSB mode and fine tune in the code with the BFO knob.
NDB stands for "Non-Directional Beacon" which actually means that the beacon transmits in a pattern equally in all directions. They are used for aeronautical navigation. The aircraft is equipped with a radio called an ADF (automatic direction finder) that when tuned to the beacon frequency drives an instrument with a pointer that points the direction to the station. This technology has been around for a long time and has been largely superceded by newer technologies the most recent being GPS. Therefore, many NDBs have been and are being phased out. Enjoy them while you can.
That beacon QT that you are hearing is a Canadian across the Lake from you located in Thunder Bay Ontario. It actually transmits on 332. From your location you are well positioned to be able to hear lots of Canadian beacons. Fortunately, the Canadians have not been phasing out their beacons as much as in the U.S. Often, the NDB is the only navigational aid available at many very remote Canadian airstrips.
However, you will need a good antenna to get the most out of your 750. That rotatable ferrite will pull in only the strongest nearest signals. The nice thing about the 750 though, as you have noticed, is the ability to connect an external antenna to the 3.5 mm jack on the ferrite bar. Go to the Universal Radio website and get a mono-mini to SO-239 adapter (their part #1619) that will plug into the 3.5 mm port. Get a pre-assembled RG-8X coax with PL-259 connectors on each end. Universal sells them in various lengths from 25' to 100'. The coax will run from the adapter to your antenna. My suggestion would be the EF-SWL antenna (Universal #2205). Or you can homebrew your own antenna with whatever wire you may have around. All kinds of antenna plans on the internet. Just be sure to disconnect the antenna when not in use to protect from lightning damage. (btw, you can also use that EF-SWL antenna for shortwave listening on your 750... get adapter Universal #2122 and connect to the BNC connector labelled SW on the right hand side of the 750 and make sure the INT/EXT antenna switch is in external EXT).
Hope this helps get you started. Any questions, just ask.
Hey buddy this is TOTALLY awesome advice, especially regarding EXT antenna to connect...honestly I've been trying to figure that out. The adapters and the coax and all this...but now u gave me superb advice and I thank you very much. Even including item # for some of the equipment? Thanx man!
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I'm just learning Morse...last night I copied 382 KHz. ..listed here as Iroquois Falls, ON...
on the list here I read that the CW says 7P...but I think I heard 'YPL'.
Do u know if that's correct?
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Yes; YPL is correct, and is also on 382 kHz. 7B has an offset of ~1015 Hz, while YPL (the dominant Canadian on this freq) has offsets of approx +/- 400 Hz.
The best most up to date NDB listing can be found at: https://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/rna/signal_list
Here there are very good search capabilities to help you ID what you hear, and this is an invaluable resource for the NDB DXer.
If you are interested in being a part of the global NDB community, I suggest subscribing to the NDB list group, which can be found at: https://groups.io/g/ndblist
joe
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Given your location you probably heard YPL. It puts out a good signal. In fact, at night it covers the more local to me XU London ON on the same freq.
Try www.dxinfocentre.com. Lots of good stuff there including a list of NDBs.
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Quebec in here this morning 1 1/2 hours before sunrise:
338 ZEM Eastmain QC
340 YY Mont Joli QC
344 YGV Harve St. Pierre QC
351 YKQ Ft. Rupert QC
366 YMW Maniwaki QC
373 2Q Mt. Laurier QC
edit: just occurred to me that YY and YGV would have been in daylight
Couple more early this morning 7-23-18:
360 PN Port Menier QC
373 YXK Rimouski QC
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Noisy conditions early this morning, lots of T-storm QRN as the WX map showed lots of storms mostly across the southern and eastern States.
Heard only a few beacons in Ontario, all fairly local. So was quite surprised to hear 206 QI Yarmouth NS in here with a rather nice signal.
FWIW, a nearly 900 mile path, most of it would have been in twilight.
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260 YAT Attawapiskat ON and 260 UFX St. Felix deValois mixing in the heavy QRN this morning.
Also was able to pull 289 YLQ LaTuque QC and 300 Ogoki Post ON out of the DGPS band din.
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Band was very quiet early this morning.
385 QV Yorkton SK had a good signal in here.
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Pulled these out of the DGPS band this morning:
289 YLQ Latuque QC
290 QR Regina SK
291 9Q Amos QC
300 YOG Ogoki Post ON
305 YQ Churchill MB
317 ZZR Trenton ON
317 ZMX Montreal QC
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Hat Trick !
Three NDBs at Hamilton ON heard this morning:
221 HM
266 ZHM
397 ZHA
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Fall season conditions continue to improve with less QRN.
Some Canadians heard here this weekend that are not received here too often:
206 QI Yarmouth NS
209 IB Atikokan ON
212 SJ St. John NB
244 DG Chute des Passes Dangereuses QC
305 YQ Churchill MB
323 KR Schefferville QC
344 ZSB Sudbury ON
350 DF Deer Lake NL
362 SB Sudbury ON
371 GW Great Whale River QC
Propagation was especially good to the East with loud sigs from the Maritimes.
362 SB usually comes in here strong day and night... it was included because
the other beacon there, 344 ZSB, is rarely heard here ???
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11:45z WEBEQUIE 355 KHZ 'YWP'
11:50z INTERNATIONAL FALLS, MN
353 KHz 'IN'
Also I'm copying good ol' DULUTH, MN...379 KHz 'DL'.
Btw I'm actually geographically closer to WINNIPEG than I am to DETROIT! like 15 miles closer
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Fall season conditions continue to improve with less QRN.
Yeah I should say so! I haven't listened in a few months...right now atm I hear NDBs all over the place! woot!
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There is no LW broadcasting in the U.S. Pretty much limited to Europe and Africa.
Okay! SO...what's with these Michigan NDBs? Oh...NDBs is not "broadcasting"?
Yeah I'd sure like to hear Radio Polska 225 KHz but I'm dreaming! So, LW is popular in Europe + Africa bcuz of its "ground propagation"? Since there are so many different countries and languages right next to each other?
What about real "satellite" radios? ...is all that European LW broadcasting available via satellite radio?
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There is no LW broadcasting in the U.S. Pretty much limited to Europe and Africa.
Yeah I'd sure like to hear Radio Polska 225 KHz but I'm dreaming!
This is the year, this is the season. Try each nite between approx 0000 and 0400. Astounding things happen down there.
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Good propagation all directions this morning:
206 QI Yarmouth NS
208 YSK Sanikiluaq NU
232 GP Gaspe QC
235 9H LaGrande 3 QC
242 XC Cranbrook BC
254 5B Summerside PE
305 YQ Churchill MB
332 YFM LaGrande 4 QC
334 YER Fort Severn ON
338 YPX Puvirnituq QC
350 DF Deer Lake NL
350 NY Enderby BC (heard mixing with DF... coast to coast DX)
360 PN Port Menier QC
371 GW Great Whale River QC
390 VP Kuujjuaq QC
395 YL Lynn Lake MB
396 YPH Port Harrison QC
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Good band conditions early this morning, highlights were several new ones for me
to the far northeast:
265 YKO Akulivik QC
277 YLC Lake Harbor Kimmirut Baffin Is. NU
281 CA Cartwright NL
Otherwise, logged lots of Prairie beacons:
212 YGX Gillam MB
269 UDE Delta MB
284 QD The Pas MB
290 QR Regina SK
300 YIV Island Lake MB
305 YQ Churchill MB
336 LF LaSalle MB
Finally, logged the far west as the propagation seemed to shift that way
about an hour before local sunrise:
368 ZP Sandspit BC
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204 YFY Frobisher Bay NU
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Nice one!
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214 K8 Nemiscau QC
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Propagation has been so-so recently but have managed to log some Canadians heard here for the first time...
200 UAB Anahim Lake BC
205 YRQ Trois Rivieres QC
206 XBE Bearskin Lake ON
213 YRC Saguenay QC
230 ZUC Ignace ON
347 PA Prince Albert SK
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Some beacons heard this morning in the really Great White North:
Heard this one last month for the first time but it seems a regular in here lately:
204 YFY Frobisher Bay NU
Been looking for this one for quite a while. Never had a solid ID on it in the past
but had nice sigs in here this morning:
214 YIO Pond Inlet NU
This one was booming in here stomping out the more local to me SB Sudbury ON:
(Sudbury usually heard here day and night with strong sigs but was buried this morning.)
362 YZS Coral Harbor NU
So... Take Off to the Great White North...
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LW band conditions mediocre at best here this morning with propagation
mostly to the east featuring lots of Quebec for some reason
including these not heard here very often:
241 DG Chute des Passes Dangereuses
261 2H Lebel sur Quevillon
275 R1 Thetford Mines
291 9Q Amos
343 ZBM Bromont
Otherwise, heard only 2 beacons west of Ontario:
269 UDE Delta MB
400 QQ Comox BC
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Pipeline to Nova Scotia this morning:
206 QI Yarmouth
263 QY Sydney
266 YZX Greenwood
all with good sigs
Still hearing lots of Quebec including:
220 BX Lourdes de Blanc Sablon
230 YBM St. Bruno de Guigues
Propagation also shifted somewhat to the West
since yesterday allowing these Prairie beacons
to be heard with nice sigs:
212 YGX Gillam MB
244 TH Thompson MB
284 QD The Pas MB
290 QR Regina SK
300 YIV Island Lake MB (only got the "V" clearly on this one
mixing with YOG in the soup)
305 YQ Churchill MB
Propagation North-South practically nonexistent
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Northern Ontario loud in here this morning.
The following beacons had especially strong sigs:
326 VV Wiarton
328 YTL Big Trout Lake
334 YER Fort Severn
335 YLD Chapleau
346 YXL Sioux Lookout
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235 9H La Grande 3 QC and 332 YFM La Grande 4 QC both with good sigs here this morning.
YFM especially loud, covering QT Thunder Bay ON also on 332.
These beacons are associated with airports located near Hydro-Quebec generating stations,
looks like a massive project.
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Log 'em while you can.
Looks like many Canadian NDBs are scheduled to be decommissioned
beginning in April and continuing in phases over the next seven years.
Log 'em while you can.
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Yesterday was the scheduled beginning of the phased decommissioning of many NDBs in Canada.
247 YLH, 283 PT, and 329 YHN normally have a good signal in here at my QTH but could hear none of them this morning.
Looks like they may have gone SK. :(
So, log what you can while you can.
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Log 'em while you can.
Looks like many Canadian NDBs are scheduled to be decommissioned
beginning in April and continuing in phases over the next seven years.
Log 'em while you can.
Even the more rural parts of Canada? Are they going to decommission the entire NDB network? I don't like the idea of relying entirely on GPS for airnav. Good to have a backup.
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Log 'em while you can.
Looks like many Canadian NDBs are scheduled to be decommissioned
beginning in April and continuing in phases over the next seven years.
Log 'em while you can.
Even the more rural parts of Canada? Are they going to decommission the entire NDB network? I don't like the idea of relying entirely on GPS for airnav. Good to have a backup.
Agreed, gps systems are vulnerable to attack from natural and man made vectors, so mothballing these stations would be a good idea. The sun could fart and wipe out a number of satellite systems, some bad actor could hack gps and ruin it or attack it directly - gps will be one of the first things to go in a major war. That being said, will aircraft still have mw/vlf rdf abilities in 7 years?
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The decommissioning... er "modernization"... will take place in phases over the next seven years.
Not all NDBs will be shut down, about 70 will be spared the ax (including a lot of the exotic "North of 60" beacons).
Same thing happening in the U.S. Fewer and fewer NDB approaches or approaches that even require an ADF.
Not just NDBs... looks like many VORs and marker beacons are also on the way out.
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Heard early this morning some beacons from the Great White North:
206 QI Yarmouth NS
212 SJ St. John NB
284 RT Rankin Inlet NU
300 YIV Island Lake MB
323 KR Schefferville QC
329 YEK Eskimo Point NU
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Wow nice DX. I've been trying Rankin Inlet every night but I can never hear it well enough to copy behind Old Crow >:(.
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Wow nice DX. I've been trying Rankin Inlet every night but I can never hear it well enough to copy behind Old Crow >:(.
Thought you were referring to the bourbon there for a moment but then realized you meant the NDB YOC in the Yukon. ;)
Anyway, IIRC, RT is not currently scheduled to be decommissioned and may even have its power increased so hopefully you will yet get to log it.
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Thought you were referring to the bourbon there for a moment but then realized you meant the NDB YOC in the Yukon
Lol, I don't normally drink at the radio unless I'm on 80 meters. ;D
Anyway, IIRC, RT is not currently scheduled to be decommissioned and may even have its power increased so hopefully you will yet get to log it.
Tonight is my last night in the Yukon for a while. I'll be pulling an all-nighter to try and get as many of these stations as possible.
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Wow nice DX. I've been trying Rankin Inlet every night but I can never hear it well enough to copy behind Old Crow >:(.
I've been checking for YOC every nite but RT is always in the way :)
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I've been checking for YOC every nite but RT is always in the way :)
Wanna trade?
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332 YFM La Grande 4 QC
Heard @2130Z, the path was still daylight... 880 mi.
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Propagation generally poor early this morning but a pipeline into Manitoba for some reason.
212 YGX Gillam MB
244 TH Thompson MB
248 WG Winnipeg MB big signal
269 UDE Delta MB
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284 QD The Pas MB... couldn't figure this one out at first, it is apparently miskeying as AA S.
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Not much propagation to the North this morning, the action was all out West.
212 YGX Gillam MB
244 TH Thompson MB
248 WG Winnipeg MB
250 FO Flin Flon MB
290 QR Regina SK
300 YIV Island Lake MB
317 VC LaRonge SK
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The decommissioning continues, coming up on phase 7 of 12, but still plenty of Canadians to be heard.
Here is a list of several beacons heard here recently all with nice signals:
206 QI Yarmouth NS
248 WG Winnipeg MB
326 FC Fredericton NB
332 QT Thunder Bay ON
332 YFM LaGrande4 QC
340 YY Mont-Joli QC
346 YXL Sioux Lookout ON
351 YKQ Fort Rupert QC
360 PN Port Menier QC
362 SB Sudbury ON
371 GW Great Whale River QC
...so take off...log 'em before they are gone.