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Technical Topics => Equipment => Topic started by: Telegrapher on February 15, 2019, 1755 UTC

Title: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Telegrapher on February 15, 2019, 1755 UTC
Hi all,

I have a portable antenna (from military source) and I wonder what kind of antenna it is, and if possible some instructions as to how to mount / use it for SWL purposes.
See pictures for info.

https://imgur.com/a/LR3dK37

Kind regards,
Telegrapher.
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Matt285 on February 15, 2019, 1816 UTC
Do you have another photo? It just kind of looks like wires to my untrained eye. Is there any kind of components with it? What is the length etc?
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Telegrapher on February 15, 2019, 1851 UTC
Hey,

I have added a few more with the antenna unplugged from my receiver.

Kind regards,
Telegrapher.
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Matt285 on February 15, 2019, 2022 UTC
Not able to see any photos yet.
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Traveling Wave on February 15, 2019, 2044 UTC
Three insulators are pictured, my guess is a delta loop configuration.
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Josh on February 15, 2019, 2103 UTC
Have you unraveled it to see how long it is?
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Matt285 on February 15, 2019, 2116 UTC
Yes. I only saw the first.
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Telegrapher on February 15, 2019, 2311 UTC
Not yet, all I know is that it's long enough to grab on the other side of a 3 stories high building thrown over the roof top. To me it looks like it's designed to throw up in the field like in a evergreen for example to hide it. Since it's color is green and brownish. Easy to carry on-the-go and roll out for portable operations. I'll need a meter to measure the length of it, I don't have anything here at the moment to measure it's total length.. It's likely around 35 - 40ish as the house I threw it over was about 18 meters high. The unusual part to me is the 3 elements on the end of the antenna. I still don't know to this day how to mount them.. Upside or pointed down to the ground, or like the usual horizontal radials in most outdoor antenna systems I see around.. The longer I roll the wire, the better the signal. So it's not really acting like a AM antenna loop. It needs to be stretched out to be effective.
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: kalvados on February 17, 2019, 1312 UTC
I do not know from which radio station your antenna, but I have a similar one.
Antenna from the Russian military radio station R-105M (R-108M, R-109M). The length is 40 meters. From the technical description of radio stations:
• beam antenna directional length of 40 m, suspended at a height of 1 m above the ground, - to work at elevated distances and from shelters;
• an enhanced antenna consisting of a beam antenna 40 m long lifted from the radio station to a height of 5-6 m, with a gradually decreasing opposite end directed at the correspondent for working at increased distances and from shelters.

https://imgur.com/a/Mlm802k
Title: Re: Antenna Identification needed
Post by: Telegrapher on March 20, 2019, 1816 UTC
That describes exactly the design I have. Thanks for the clear images. It’s the same design as I have. The only thing is there’s no such plug on the end. Only a stripped wire is hooked up on the device like around a portable sw radios whip antenna. That’s what I mainly use it for. Outside DX purposes are nice with this antenna. Easy to carry and pull out. The description on the second image was all I needed to know. As I wasn’t able to find out how to put this thing in the right directions. Thanks for the information given. Highly appreciated :)

Happy SWLing. Kind regards,
Telegrapher