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General Category => General Radio Discussion => Topic started by: Josh on June 25, 2019, 2208 UTC

Title: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: Josh on June 25, 2019, 2208 UTC
Hanza, Okinawa - May 2007
Demolition of Hanza CDAA March 13 - June 30, 2007
https://www.navycthistory.com/okihughes01.html
Title: Re: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: Fansome on June 26, 2019, 1244 UTC
Don't call me "Shirley".
Title: Re: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: Josh on June 26, 2019, 1816 UTC
Can we call you Al?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bA
Title: Re: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: BoomboxDX on June 27, 2019, 1445 UTC
What was it actually used for? Navigation, or Navy communications on HF?
Title: Re: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: Josh on June 27, 2019, 2022 UTC
Q; What was it actually used for? Navigation, or Navy communications on HF?

A: Woolywebbers were used for D, all the above.

Developed in ww2 Germany, these antennas had interesting capabilities in direction finding and sensitivity. After the war, the US and Russia in particular dismantled some and took them home. We built them in various places around the world to spy on friends and enemies alike, as well as take df fixes. A friend used to sit for hours in front of an R390A or two, listening to cw signals from Chinese or Russian air forces, said signals picked up via a woolywebber or rhombic antenna in Turkey, Viet Nam, or elsewhere depending on where he was posted. Oddly enough he hates cw but loves the R390A to this day.

Each service watches its counterpart, navy on navy, army on army, etc, and all the take was/is fed to nsa. The Russians and Chinese as well as others listen to our traffic too. Remote rx systems and sdr plus active antenna df arrays have largely done away with woolys, but there are still some in use, Germany still uses the one we gave them after we closed shop in Germany.

If one ever becomes a museum, I envision it packed with remote capable sdrs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wullenweber

If you've not read these related tomes, you're welcome in advance;
https://www.scribd.com/doc/57791980/The-Puzzle-Palace
https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/cryptography/Body%20of%20Secrets.pdf

Bonus reading material;
https://cryptome.org/2015/04/nsa-war-secrets-in-the-ether-p1-p2.pdf
Title: Re: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2019, 2145 UTC
Would have made a great wall of death.
Title: Re: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: IQ_imbalance on June 28, 2019, 0113 UTC
Two signal enter.  One signal leave.
Title: Re: Surely it could have sold it as surplus.
Post by: Josh on June 28, 2019, 1835 UTC
Two signal enter.  One signal leave.

hehe!

wall of death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar