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General Category => Bacon, BBQ, Beef, And More => Topic started by: ChrisSmolinski on August 11, 2019, 2048 UTC
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Read this twitter thread - super important. This push to cut meat consumption is being pushed by those with ties to the fake meat companies. As always... follow the money.
https://twitter.com/_S70DD/status/1157880263613005826
To summarize:
You see the news reports, like this one from CNN: https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1157607331103944704 "Americans will need to cut their beef consumption by about 40% and Europeans by 22% for the world to continue to feed everyone in the next 30 years, according to a new report."
The study cited is done by the World Research Institute.
WRI's Co-Chair is David Blood. David Blood is former Goldman Sachs' Asset Management head who founded Generation Investment Management with Al Gore.
Generation Investment Management just happens to be aligned with a firm called Kleiner Perkins, who just happens to count one Al Gore as one of their partners and advisors, and Kleiner Perkins just happens to be
BeyondMeat's biggest investor.
And now you know the rest of the story.
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A few words from the otherr side:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production
I'll say no more on this.
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Now Chris, we all know Dave Blood died of a drug overdose in 2004. It crushed fan's of the Dead Millkmen, a band that took a hard line on milk cows but were also anti-Hippy. Those boy's were good all-American meat eaters. Mojo Nixon fed them with TV dinners on their first West Coast tour. TV dinners means Salisbury Steak. Dave Blood anti-meat? He lived two more decades because of the TV dinner tour.
Strangely, Dave was studying for Ph.D. in Economics when his suicide happened. A possible switch of identities?
We may have to put this one on the "DubyaBushHitList" site? Dub is a secret member of the Texas Tofu Liberation Front. The shooting of Dick Cheney on that quail hunt was to get Cheney in line with the program. How do I know this? My secret hotline to Alex Jones, that's how. He never lies or makes things up.
BTW, if you ever get an envelope of pamphlets from Pueblo, CO, don't read them. There was a guy's kid who lived next to Al at Shady Acres who sent off for some and ended up decapitated. His head was found by the Sno-Cone concession. It's still unsolved, the Dad blames it on some thing or someone called "The Mixer". Poor Bill Junior!
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A few words from the otherr side:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production
I'll say no more on this.
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We only have 10 more years anyway so nothing matters.
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We only have 10 more years anyway so nothing matters.
Reminds me of "fusion power is 30 years away". It's been 30 years away for the past 60 years :)
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. This push to cut meat consumption is being pushed by those with ties to the fake meat companies.
Ummm.
Well, those folks may be financially interested, it's not like they are the only ones advocating for it. There are plenty of people with no expectation of financial gain pointing out the issues. Jim's reference is a starting point.
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Dunno bout you guys but I'm fixin to blast that cuck-driven soy powered prius behind my turbo diesel suv with a cloud of diesel smoke.... all while eating a double whopper with fries.
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Just passed the prius with my rig hauling a load of hogs to the processing plant.
He's gagging on his vegan latte in my wake.
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Dunno bout you guys but I'm fixin to blast that cuck-driven soy powered prius behind my turbo diesel suv with a cloud of diesel smoke.... all while eating a double whopper with fries.
I have a turbo diesel SUV as well (sans diesel smoke, which I kinda miss as I love the smell of diesel).
Is the diesel slow? Oh no no... not at all. At a speed of <redacted to protect the guilty>, its smooooeeother than silk. Faster than most squares on the highway as it is, and its not even trying. These things get to 140+ mph on the Autobahn.
Guy I know got a new Toyota Highlander hybrid. Seems decent enough and I asked about mileage. My larger & heavier TDI gets better mileage.
Who's more "green?" Kermit the Frog. However, my name ain't Kermit and I'm not a frog. I'm a human and I eat meat & plants of my own free will.
Just to spite Algore & this "peak meat," I'm going to make sure I get some steak grilling this weekend on the BBQ (BBQ causes problems in certain circles as well). With mushrooms and leeks. Leeks are green.
P.S. Always follow the money.
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In my short time on this planet I have learned that anytime some organization tells me something is good for the planet, it really means its good for their pocket. I'm not suggesting that environmental stewardship is a bad thing, or unnecessary, but people do tend to go to the extremes, especially when financial lubrication is involved.
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H. L. Mencken
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It’s real, it’s delicious and it’s for your enjoyment. Look for limited edition SPAM® Pumpkin Spice 2-packs coming Sept. 23rd to SPAM.com and Walmart.com. Eat one, save one!
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Ingredients
Pork with Ham, Sugar, Water, Salt, Modified Potato Starch, Spices, Sodium Nitrite
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 2 oz (56g); Servings: 6
Calories: 180 ; Total Fat: 16g (21%); Saturated Fat: 6g (30%); Cholesterol: 40mg (13%); Sodium: 600mg (26%); Total Carbohydrates: 3g (1%); Dietary Fiber: 0g (0%); Sugars: 3g (6%); Protein: 7g ;
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The maple flavoured sausage is a big seller at work. Have to keep an eye out for the punkin spice spams.
Also LOL @ peak meat.
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I wonder if the Pumpkin Spice Spam would go good with a Pumpkin Ale ? ....https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/styles/72/
List of all things pumpkin that no one asked for ....https://www.wideopeneats.com/15-ridiculous-pumpkin-season-products/
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So, when the GF calls me a "meathead", it means I really like meat, right?
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OK so when I follow the money on who is driving the pushback to cutting meat consumption, I find this:
Backed by the state’s pork producers and the Missouri Cattlemen’s Association, the bill appears to be a product of meat lobbies spooked by the country’s growing taste for vegetarian substitutes, and its language parallels that of a House bill sponsored by Republican State Representative Jeff Knight, a former livestock auctioneer.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pavag9/the-meat-lobbys-bill-to-ban-the-phrase-fake-meat-shows-the-real-threat-of-plant-based-alternatives (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pavag9/the-meat-lobbys-bill-to-ban-the-phrase-fake-meat-shows-the-real-threat-of-plant-based-alternatives)
Wait, a big US industry putting down big money to legislate something in their interest. Pshaw. Say it isn't so. ;) But not all the meatless industry is worried.
That’s the future that Brown sees for companies like his: as collaborators with, not adversaries of, big agriculture. He said that Beyond Meat is currently exploring ways to team with growers of cattle grazing land to see how some of that acreage can be used to produce the legumes that the company uses in its foods.
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OK so when I follow the money on who is driving the pushback to cutting meat consumption, I find this:
Backed by the state’s pork producers and the Missouri Cattlemen’s Association, the bill appears to be a product of meat lobbies spooked by the country’s growing taste for vegetarian substitutes, and its language parallels that of a House bill sponsored by Republican State Representative Jeff Knight, a former livestock auctioneer.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pavag9/the-meat-lobbys-bill-to-ban-the-phrase-fake-meat-shows-the-real-threat-of-plant-based-alternatives (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pavag9/the-meat-lobbys-bill-to-ban-the-phrase-fake-meat-shows-the-real-threat-of-plant-based-alternatives)
Absolutely, it's wrong to use legislation to unfairly gain a competitive advantage or restrict trade.
A somewhat less sensational article on the legislation in question is here https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2018/08/28/iowa-cattlemens-association-missouri-law-fake-meat-label-usda-impossible-burger-tofurky/1123730002/
The law bans "misrepresenting” food as meat if it’s not made from livestock or poultry, and will cost violators up to $1,000 and a year in jail.
I'm not entirely opposed to requiring a product that claims to be meat to, well, actually be meat ;D
That said, the article goes on to note:
But Missouri has not heard complaints from people confused about the term "plant-based meats," the company that makes Tofurky argued in a injunction filed Monday in federal court. The filing pointed out that "meat" can also refer to parts of nuts and fruits.
Existing use of "meat" to refer to nut and fruits would certainly seem to open the door to it being used for other products as well. The only goal of such legislation should be to prevent consumers from being mislead - nothing more. As long as consumers are not mislead by the use of the word "meat" on the packaging, it should probably be allowed. Perhaps via sufficient disclaimers that the product is made from exclusively non animal sources and does not contain animal meat, maybe with the requirement that such notices are in a font no smaller than the largest font otherwise used on the package? Don't want any of that pesky fine print that no one can read.
There's already an existing minefield of regulations regarding food labeling and what can be called what, we don't need to unnecessarily add to it. Alton Brown of "Good Eat" (which is of course the best TV show about cooking since Julia Child) would routinely mock them as one of the three characters playing fictitious government food agents (all wearing dark sunglasses) who would appear to advise Alton of the intricate and sometime arcade rules regarding the ingredient(s) he was using in that episode.
Which reminds me! Good Eats is back on the air after a several year hiatus. Season 15 premiered last night on Food TV. And yes, the government agents made an appearance. They lamented about their inability to regulate what could actually be called San Marzano Tomatoes :)
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Alton Brown of "Good Eat" (which is of course the best TV show about cooking since Julia Child)
quoted for greater justice
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