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Loggings => European Pirate => Topic started by: Claudio Italy on August 13, 2019, 2032 UTC

Title: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Claudio Italy on August 13, 2019, 2032 UTC
Good evening to all, I tried the Iann's Pirate Chat link,
 but it doesn't work! Does anyone else have problems?
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dxace1 on August 13, 2019, 2050 UTC
Yes, it has been down -- we have emailed to him to ask what the situation is.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Skipmuck on August 13, 2019, 2124 UTC
I was able to get in by first logging into the XAT site, then by clicking on the HFU link in the drop down menu on "HFU Special Sites". Remember to close out of the XAT once you get in to Iann's
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dxace1 on August 13, 2019, 2126 UTC
That's ALWAYS the case -- you have to sign out of one to use the other.  This is a major outage.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dandan22 on August 13, 2019, 2212 UTC
I’m a ‘me too’ victim also.  There has been no connectivity for IOS devices (at least IPAD AIR 2 running the most recent IOS) and PCs running WINDOWS 10.  I have been successful monitoring the chatroom, but have no been able to get the chatroom software to allow me to change my name that was assigned to me when I logged in.  I can either passively read the chatroom, or not be involved at all.  It is interesting that users in the USA, UK, IT, and other countries have had issues, but BE, GE, NE have not.  Hopefully Iann will be able to get the chatroom restored.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Ray Lalleu on August 13, 2019, 2245 UTC
Just make a search for : xat html5
and you'll find that result :

Flash vs. HTML5 - xat wiki
https://util.xat.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flash_vs_html5
xat has decided to move from Flash to HTML5 and this article
is here to explain the reason for the move,
and the advantages that HTML5 carries over Flash.
Flash Those animations could be embedded on webpages,
which made it a very popular resource at the time.

So the move is more or less in progress on various parts of Internet ?
And maybe I'll soon be on xat,
but up to now, I need a true newbie 101 basic info about xat and the pirate chat.
 
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dandan22 on August 14, 2019, 0155 UTC
Ray Lalleu’s explanation makes sense given that Flash is going away next year.  As an IOS user, that’s great because making the chatroom ‘non-Flash’ will make it better for IOS users.  I can’t wait...but I just wish it would be instantaneous!  We need the chatroom NOW!!
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Jock Wilson on August 14, 2019, 0317 UTC
Ray Lalleu’s explanation makes sense given that Flash is going away next year.
As an IOS user, that’s great because making the chatroom ‘non-Flash’ will make it better for IOS users.
I can’t wait...but I just wish it would be instantaneous!  We need the chatroom NOW!!


Unlike me, you are able to follow Ray's explanation; therefore I take my hat off to you.

The chatroom posters had stated that statesiders who were frequent posters were unable
to access the chatroom very recently, but that Iann had been informed promptly of the glitch.

Here in the PRC, I am able to access the chatroom only when my internet dial-up speed is high,
which is between about 1730 UTC and 0900 UTC the following day. However, I am unable
to contribute to the chatroom on account of the great firewall of China.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dxace1 on August 14, 2019, 1251 UTC
This still does not explain the drop in access.  It should
Still be accessible whether html5 or using a browser
exception to allow temporary use of flash



Just make a search for : xat html5
and you'll find that result :

Flash vs. HTML5 - xat wiki
https://util.xat.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flash_vs_html5
xat has decided to move from Flash to HTML5 and this article
is here to explain the reason for the move,
and the advantages that HTML5 carries over Flash.
Flash Those animations could be embedded on webpages,
which made it a very popular resource at the time.

So the move is more or less in progress on various parts of Internet ?
And maybe I'll soon be on xat,
but up to now, I need a true newbie 101 basic info about xat and the pirate chat.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Ray Lalleu on August 14, 2019, 1257 UTC
This still does not explain the drop in access.  It should
Still be accessible whether html5 or using a browser
exception to allow temporary use of flash

Try that line :

https://xat.com/PirateRadio2011?new
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dandan22 on August 14, 2019, 1616 UTC
An update from here in the East coast of the US....Still can't get an active path into the chatroom, altho both the hfunderground path and the Dr. Tim path allows me to monitor the chatroom, which is better than nothing...The problem started a day ago, and up to now the only way I can communicate with the Chatroom is via Dr. Tim's link or  hfunderground, with Adobe Flash activated.  This doesn't bode well for next year after October 2020 when Flash goes away.  I want to thank Terry and Dan from the US, and Paul, Panda, and so many others that have given good suggestions, albeit an issue for almost all I guess.  I'll be monitoring and maybe putting things up on hfunderground instead of PirateChat2011 until it is fixed.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: ukdxer on August 14, 2019, 1633 UTC
Maybe someone should set up an alternative free radio chatroom which doesn't use Xat.com. There must be others out there. It could serve as a back up when Iann's chat isn't working properly.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Jock Wilson on August 14, 2019, 1806 UTC
http://www.doctortim.de/

I presume the link above is an alternative link that works for us all in the role of mere viewers of the chatroom's posts.

I confirm that the link works for me in that respect.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dxace1 on August 14, 2019, 2022 UTC
The Doctor Tim channel does not work -- I get a Connection Problem notice and cannot
sign in or establish my usual name.   Momentarily I get connectivity but cannot successfully
sign in.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Jock Wilson on August 15, 2019, 0301 UTC
The Doctor Tim channel does not work -- I get a Connection Problem notice and cannot sign in or establish my usual name.
Momentarily I get connectivity but cannot successfully sign in.


It is clearly very frustrating to experience such a problem in the specific country in which you reside!

Where I am, I have just discovered that Wiktionary has been blocked; it never used to be - this is yet another frustration of mine!

(I had tried, albeit unsuccessfully, to access a link provided on another board by a poster who is an unlicensed broadcaster
to back up his assertion that 5799 Khz AM is to all intents and purposes within the ITU broadcast bands.)
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dandan22 on August 15, 2019, 1428 UTC
So, with Day 2 starting since Iann's PirateRadio2011 chat went down, wanted to give a status for me here in Central MD.
With the help of several people, and the availability of the Europirate Chat on the Shortwave Pirate Radio Chat page of HFUnderground, I have been able to see Iann's PirateRadio2011 chat page again.   I can access it via DoctorTim.GE link, and the HFUnderground link.  But both accesses are limited to a passive view of the chatroom--I can't actually log in and participate in the chatroom.  I have had some parallel computer issues, but the system is working well now--but the Chatroom access isn't.  I don't know who is in charge of Iaan's Chatroom, but something will have to be done, and hopefully soon, to get the room back up to full abilities. 
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dxace1 on August 15, 2019, 1449 UTC
Yes, this is still the case -- we can see it passively but not log on or change our ID...
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dandan22 on August 15, 2019, 1959 UTC
After trying three different methods of accessing the Iann RadioChatroom, I have had the same results in each case.  In all of them, when I try to connect, either to log in, or to change my avatar and name, I have 'connection problems'.  So the problem is in Iann's arena--it's not allowing people without direct access to the chatroom to have active access to it.  I can monitor the chat with no problem in 3 different ways--DoctorTim.de, radiomarlininternational.com, and hfunderground.com.  Until the problem is resolved by Iaan, I am stuck in monitoring, not participating.  Just hope the problem is resolved soon, or the function of Pirate RAdio Chat is transferred to a new host.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: radio merlin on August 15, 2019, 2041 UTC
just found this link for chat if it helps you https://trcoding.net/swchat.php also chat works okay on my web site http://radiomerlininternational.weebly.com/ cheers paul 73s
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dxace1 on August 15, 2019, 2104 UTC
The trcoding link does not work from my location.   As dandan has noted, we can observe but not participate in the chat right now.  No sign in possible, or name changes.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: radio merlin on August 15, 2019, 2109 UTC
very strange works ok here in the UK
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Claudio Italy on August 16, 2019, 1154 UTC
I confirm that the chat is still not usable! Connection error when entering my name.
Without nick-name, I can see the messages for a few minutes, then disconnect.
Frustrating!
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Ray Lalleu on August 16, 2019, 1200 UTC
I confirm that the chat is still not usable! Connection error when entering my name.
Without nick-name, I can see the messages for a few minutes, then disconnect.
Frustrating!
So, who succeeds in posting new messages ?
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dandan22 on August 16, 2019, 1213 UTC
at 1200 UTC on 16 August, I can monitor the chatroom on 3 different websites, but none will allow me to log in or change my avatar name.  Others in the US have the same issue.  I'm going to stop trying...it's not worth the frustration.....
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: texas1dxer on August 16, 2019, 1505 UTC
For some reason I'm able to post on Iann's site.
I have the same issues with the other links that dandan22, dxace1, and others in NAm have.
I'm on a Mac with the latest OS, using Safari with Flash enabled.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: ukdxer on August 16, 2019, 1654 UTC
Xat.com which operates the chat groups has a support forum. Someone on there was complaining about a network problem. The advice was to clear their cache. https://forum.xat.com/topic/10895-xatcom-network-problem/

You could also go direct to their support team https://util.xat.com/support/index.php
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: dxace1 on August 16, 2019, 1719 UTC
I already tried clearing cache, it did not correct the problem at least using Firefox latest build.  I will try other browsers.
Title: Re: Iann's Pirate Chat
Post by: Jock Wilson on August 16, 2019, 1805 UTC
I already tried clearing cache, it did not correct the problem at least using Firefox latest build.  I will try other browsers.

Yep, definitely worth a try. I hope you get a positive outcome.

(I have found that an older version of a particular browser works better than the latest edition when solving other issues; maybe that is also worth a try.)