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General Category => Group W Bench => Topic started by: secretlab on May 20, 2020, 2322 UTC
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The long FCC process in the non-renewal for cause of William Crowell's ham ticket seemingly is over with the cancellation of his license on 5-5-20. Crowell devoted considerable resources voicing his displeasure (the FCC alleged that included jamming with pre-recorded loops and music) over many years on frequencies used by WARFA, a racially diverse net which refused to 'check him in.'
The FCC decision came in February. Most of the FCC Docket 08-20 is available online. It's interesting reading.
Docket 08-20 https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?action_offset=0&express_comment=0&proceedings_name=08-20&sort=date_disseminated,DESC&submissiontype_description=REPLY (https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?action_offset=0&express_comment=0&proceedings_name=08-20&sort=date_disseminated,DESC&submissiontype_description=REPLY)
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When I lived on the west coast, I actually was able to tune into the net in question and was an ear-witness to some of the abuse from that guy. It was indeed pretty bad. I don't know much about how the FCC works, so far as enforcement is concerned. But it really surprises me just how long it took the FCC to address that issue.
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When I lived on the west coast, I actually was able to tune into the net in question and was an ear-witness to some of the abuse from that guy. It was indeed pretty bad. I don't know much about how the FCC works, so far as enforcement is concerned. But it really surprises me just how long it took the FCC to address that issue.
Part of the answer I think is that Crowell is a retired attorney who was able to exploit a number of quirks in the 'due process' built into FCC enforcement. That's a protection from abuse by the government and a good thing. But I'm sure a number of FCC attorneys wish he'd pursued another hobby.
One of the WARFA net controls was an elderly woman living about 20 mi. from me. Some nights, it was tough to copy her over the wall of abuse!
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It's about time. Just last week I was looking up this guy to see if anything had changed. His license was in a state of expiration going back to 2007, so the case goes back to that date at the latest. The guy must be a sociopath. It will be glorious to have him gone.
I wonder what the lids on 3.840 think? I heard W6WBJ in real time on that frequency a couple of times, apparently they're his kind of people.
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The long FCC process in the non-renewal for cause of William Crowell's ham ticket seemingly is over with the cancellation of his license on 5-5-20. Crowell devoted considerable resources voicing his displeasure (the FCC alleged that included jamming with pre-recorded loops and music) over many years on frequencies used by WARFA, a racially diverse net which refused to 'check him in.'
The FCC decision came in February. Most of the FCC Docket 08-20 is available online. It's interesting reading.
Docket 08-20 https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?action_offset=0&express_comment=0&proceedings_name=08-20&sort=date_disseminated,DESC&submissiontype_description=REPLY (https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?action_offset=0&express_comment=0&proceedings_name=08-20&sort=date_disseminated,DESC&submissiontype_description=REPLY)
Hopefully, this will have the effect of finally shutting this fool up.
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Welp, as of 0338 UTC on 29 MAY 2020 (2038 Pacific time on the evening of Thursday the 28th), the WARFA net is experiencing malicious interference in the form of music. No ID. But it ended at 0339, followed by calls for checkins to the WARFA net, but then some of the old familiar jamming recordings are now being heard. It seems W6WBJ is still on the air, regardless of the status of his license.
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I wonder if we can start logging him as a pirate?
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I wonder if we can start logging him as a pirate?
There's been some speculation (because the wall of jamming appears to have several sources) that Crowell has had several licensed or unlicensed proteges who joined in. It will take some sleuthing to determine where the current mess is coming from.
Peace, brothers! Promotion of brotherhood, which is WARFA's stated goal, became the worst troll bait ever, it seems.
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Peace, brothers! Promotion of brotherhood, which is WARFA's stated goal, became the worst troll bait ever, it seems.
I really don't know much about the jammer's motives, but I have to wonder whether the fact that WARFA appears to be an all-inclusive, multi-racial net has something to do with this? In plain speak, I'm wondering if there is some sort of racism involved on the jammer's part? Does anyone know?
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Peace, brothers! Promotion of brotherhood, which is WARFA's stated goal, became the worst troll bait ever, it seems.
I really don't know much about the jammer's motives, but I have to wonder whether the fact that WARFA appears to be an all-inclusive, multi-racial net has something to do with this? In plain speak, I'm wondering if there is some sort of racism involved on the jammer's part? Does anyone know?
Crowell recorded (sang on) a couple of songs that can only be described as racist which became part of the jamming. There were racist comments made. He had some sort of run-in with Moody Law, WQ6I, of WARFA some years ago that seemed to escalate, but I don't know the specifics of it. Also with the late Art Bell, W6OBB, who was a member of WARFA.
I'm down with brotherhood, but it's a sad fact that there's no shortage of people who aren't.
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Crowell recorded (sang on) a couple of songs that can only be described as racist which became part of the jamming. There were racist comments made. He had some sort of run-in with Moody Law, WQ6I, of WARFA some years ago that seemed to escalate, but I don't know the specifics of it. Also with the late Art Bell, W6OBB, who was a member of WARFA.
I'm down with brotherhood, but it's a sad fact that there's no shortage of people who aren't.
OK, that explains what I heard from the jammer a few times (blatantly racist music and racist speech). I 100% draw the line at that kind of crap. Thanks for the reply.
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This guy ain't no pirate, and logging him as such just gives the FCC and other anti-pirate a**holes one more excuse to go after pirates.
Don't do it. And, in fact, logging him at all probably will just feed his ego.
Al
AL6FAN
I wonder if we can start logging him as a pirate?
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Welp, as of 0338 UTC on 29 MAY 2020 (2038 Pacific time on the evening of Thursday the 28th), the WARFA net is experiencing malicious interference in the form of music. No ID. But it ended at 0339, followed by calls for checkins to the WARFA net, but then some of the old familiar jamming recordings are now being heard. It seems W6WBJ is still on the air, regardless of the status of his license.
This is interesting because it seemed to me that since the ruling and before his license was more recently formally cancelled, the jamming reduced or was gone but I haven't been checking it intently. Maybe he briefly got a life but got bored and decided to go back to jamming.
I did multiple TDOA runs on the WARFA Net jamming one night and pretty much everything I saw lead me to believe that it was coming from the area east of Sacramento and west of the Nevada border, neatly agreeing with his purported location.
Whereas music on 3840 KHz that night appeared to be coming from various other locations.
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Crowell recorded (sang on) a couple of songs that can only be described as racist which became part of the jamming. There were racist comments made. He had some sort of run-in with Moody Law, WQ6I, of WARFA some years ago that seemed to escalate, but I don't know the specifics of it. Also with the late Art Bell, W6OBB, who was a member of WARFA.
You know about as much as I know.
I can also add that he was a frequent "member" of the 3840 group, where there is one hell of a lot of long-term personal enmity between "members", going back a long time, aside from the racism (and many other -isms).
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If you tune across 80 meters after midnight est most any day of the week, you will hear multiple deranged people, some of whom talks to themselves. Every time you remove one, there is always 10 to take their place.
Poor Mike did his best to defend the WARFA morons, and his repayment was a generic email sent to him that stated thanks but no thanks, that they were glad that the worlds biggest jammer was taken off the air, but that they no longer required his services and for him to kindly go away!
The Quote I read from Moody was - and now things can go back to the way they were..
The last time I bothered to tune in - 3.908 - they were actually calling CQ, begging someone, anyone to check in to their net..
It seems that the jamming and Mike were bigger attractions then a bunch of colored people that only wanted to talk to each other. I predict that the whole net will fall into the hole they dug when they chased away half of their check in's - in a single stroke of a keyboard key.
WARFA what? Never heard of it!
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time for a little maul of truth, W6WBJ is actually a good operator, lol.
the real jammers where the hamtifa clownworlder hippiecrites that wouldnt check in W6WBJ.
the case against W6WBJ was built on irrelevant and falsified info, taking into account today's pc extremism.
the still on going memorex jamming still going on 3908 and 3890 KHz are recordings of the real racists.
K6TXH, WA7BZI, KW6BUZ (superstation of warfa), and W6QI (Moody).
the real blight of ham radio is these four hippiecrites, never was W6WBJ.
WARFA and similar hypocritical groups are a cancer on ham radio and will be the death of it.
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time for a little maul of truth, W6WBJ is actually a good operator, lol.
the real jammers where the hamtifa clownworlder hippiecrites that wouldnt check in W6WBJ.
the case against W6WBJ was built on irrelevant and falsified info, taking into account today's pc extremism.
the still on going memorex jamming still going on 3908 and 3890 KHz are recordings of the real racists.
K6TXH, WA7BZI, KW6BUZ (superstation of warfa), and W6QI (Moody).
the real blight of ham radio is these four hippiecrites, never was W6WBJ.
WARFA and similar hypocritical groups are a cancer on ham radio and will be the death of it.
That sounds like Billy Boy talking. If not, then it's just a jammer's shill.
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Nothing but old men with ham licenses is going to be the death of ham radio. When they pass on, it will be gone. Young people aren't interested in old technology.
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Nothing but old men with ham licenses is going to be the death of ham radio. When they pass on, it will be gone. Young people aren't interested in old technology.
I hear that often from people who do absolutely nothing to share the hobby with others, young or old. There's a Young Amateur Radio Club Discord server out there. My teen aged niece has a shiny new license and handheld radio. There are kids out there who are using SDRs, building wireless linked microcontrollers and so on who don't yet realize there is a bigger community of radio hobbyists out there. All they need is some outreach. Europe has YOTA (https://www.ham-yota.com/)
I'd like to find a version of this chart that has the last four years of data but the growth is something like 12% on this one. Maybe Covid killed all the old hams and made the plot nose dive.
https://www.kb6nu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/number-of-radio-amateurs.png
(https://www.clearskyinstitute.com/ham/stats/hamlicenses-total.png)
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As of Jan 27th, the total is 767760, per http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts
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I'm not a Ham, but try to share my interest of shortwave with most folks I come in contact with. The static either scares them off or peaks their interest and then I've got their attention. I recently gave my Tecsun PL-660 to an Afghan Vet who was a translator and speaks multiple languages. He was more than excited by the idea of listening to a portable radio to practice his skills and when I explained reception quality varies with time & season similar to tidal activity (he's a surfer) that was it. Don't know if he'll get his ticket, but at least someone else digs it :)
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I'm not a Ham, but try to share my interest of shortwave with most folks I come in contact with. The static either scares them off or peaks their interest and then I've got their attention. I recently gave my Tecsun PL-660 to an Afghan Vet who was a translator and speaks multiple languages. He was more than excited by the idea of listening to a portable radio to practice his skills and when I explained reception quality varies with time & season similar to tidal activity (he's a surfer) that was it. Don't know if he'll get his ticket, but at least someone else digs it :)
That's exactly the way to do it. You don't have to convert the world, just introduce one person at a time. I got one friend started by showing him some HF beacons using the on line kiwi SDRs, He just let me know that he bought a small portable HF SDR and is bringing it on our next camping trip. Pretty cool!
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As of Jan 27th, the total is 767760, per http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts
Thanks for the assist Chris!
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Nothing but old men with ham licenses is going to be the death of ham radio. When they pass on, it will be gone. Young people aren't interested in old technology.
I hear that often from people who do absolutely nothing to share the hobby with others, young or old. There's a Young Amateur Radio Club Discord server out there. My teen aged niece has a shiny new license and handheld radio. There are kids out there who are using SDRs, building wireless linked microcontrollers and so on who don't yet realize there is a bigger community of radio hobbyists out there. All they need is some outreach. Europe has YOTA (https://www.ham-yota.com/)
I have litterally been hearing such statements since my very first ham club meeting in the late 1960's. Looking around at that meeting there were 2 of us under 20, and the vast majority were retirees. And the same thing was said then, young people aren't interested in the hobby, and the hobby will die out because no new blood is coming in.
And yet, today, as a percentage of the US population, there are about twice as many hams as there were then, and as raw numbers there are over three times as many.
I'd like to find a version of this chart that has the last four years of data but the growth is something like 12% on this one. Maybe Covid killed all the old hams and made the plot nose dive.
https://www.kb6nu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/number-of-radio-amateurs.png
(https://www.clearskyinstitute.com/ham/stats/hamlicenses-total.png)
That big dip from 2003 to 2007 was driven by the fact many people knew the code requirement was going to be dropped, and waited to test until after that.
Unfortunately, when presented such data (concerning the number of hams in the US) one of the frequent responses is "there may be more licensed hams today, but there are fewer active hams". While I believe this sentiment is incorrect, that can be hard to prove one way or another.
There have always been a rather large segment of the licensed community that were inactive. Prior to the 1990's I spent more years inactive than active, to the point I let my license laps in the 1970's, and did not get involved again until the early 1990's.
I believe that one of the ways to judge the approximate level of activity is to look at the ARRL membership and QST subscriptions. I suspect that both today and in years past if you had an ARRL membership that you had renewed then you were probably a somewhat active ham. In fact, I strongly suspect that today fewer active hams (as a percentage) are ARRL members than in the past. Looking at the ARRL membership numbers as an indicator of active vs inactive hams you will find the ratios today very similar to those 45 years ago.
T!