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General Category => General Radio Discussion => Topic started by: zackers on February 07, 2021, 0435 UTC

Title: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: zackers on February 07, 2021, 0435 UTC
Yesterday I posted a link to www.hfunderground.com in response to a question about shortwave pirate stations in a discussion on Facebook. Facebook immediately removed my post because it "goes against community standards." What? What is there about this website that goes against their standards? I don't get it.
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: ThaDood on February 07, 2021, 0651 UTC
I said the hell with facebook and Twitter about a decade ago. Did myspace, when it was coming back in 2012, then Just-In Timbrelake wiped out everyone's profile. (Yeah, WTF there...) The band Master introduced me to VK.com around 2013 / 14,   https://vk.com/realfreeradio and I believe that the Health Ranger, Mike Adams, is where I heard about Minds.com,   https://www.minds.com/groups/profile/876322093051867136  Been decent, so far. VK sometimes has some funky Sign-In quirks, but works most of the time, and I've yet to be flagged for anything. Passing thought. If I ever get decent service, besides DSL, I hope to expand Brighteon.com more with VID's, https://www.brighteon.com/dashboard/login   a.k.a. the ALT to Youtube. There's other options out there, we need to use and promote them.
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on February 07, 2021, 1317 UTC
I almost daily post hfunderground.com links on Facebook without problem, so not sure what happened your case.  There's even an HF Underground facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/112273363488408
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: Brian on February 07, 2021, 1706 UTC
You should put up "sponsored posts" promoting pyramid schemes and other scams. They don't have a problem with those posts!
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: East Troy Don on February 07, 2021, 1813 UTC
What's the difference between the 1933 book burnings in Germany and the 2021  Big Tech censorship going on today?

(Sounds like the beginning of a bad joke but there's nothing funny about it).
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: Under30 on February 09, 2021, 0335 UTC
What's the difference between the 1933 book burnings in Germany and the 2021  Big Tech censorship going on today?

(Sounds like the beginning of a bad joke but there's nothing funny about it).

Tech companies are just that, companies.
A private company or a forum can pretty much do what it wants.

If administration here (or any other social media site) says we can't talk about a particular subject, that's their right.
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: Under30 on February 09, 2021, 0347 UTC
I almost daily post hfunderground.com links on Facebook without problem, so not sure what happened your case.  There's even an HF Underground facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/112273363488408

That's great Chris! :)
I don't do FB, but fear everything is moving there :(
Hopefully your actions will drive folks over here 🙂
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: East Troy Don on February 09, 2021, 1857 UTC

'Tech companies are just that, companies.
A private company or a forum can pretty much do what it wants'.


I didn't say it was illegal, just a cause for concern.
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: BoomboxDX on February 09, 2021, 2021 UTC
What's the difference between the 1933 book burnings in Germany and the 2021  Big Tech censorship going on today?

(Sounds like the beginning of a bad joke but there's nothing funny about it).

Tech companies are just that, companies.
A private company or a forum can pretty much do what it wants.

If administration here (or any other social media site) says we can't talk about a particular subject, that's their right.

While what you say is true, those tech companies number just a handful, and control the political and other speech of hundreds of millions of Americans and probably a few billion people worldwide. The power they wield over the nation's (and the world's) dialogue and communication of ideas is considerable.

And while there are some concerns over the power and control these large social media companies have, there still is quite a large breadth of opinion and speech freely available on them. On just one of them, I can see anything from left wing rants to right wing religious conspiracy theories, and everything in between. I don't think we've reached the point yet of everything being controlled. Far from it.
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: East Troy Don on February 10, 2021, 0142 UTC
I would agree with you if APPLE, GOOGLE, FACEBOOK and TWITTER had any viable competition.
They don't.
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: redhat on February 10, 2021, 0202 UTC
Civilization on this planet has existed long before the aforementioned platforms.  It will also exist long after they are gone.

+-RH
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: BoomboxDX on February 10, 2021, 0941 UTC
I would agree with you if APPLE, GOOGLE, FACEBOOK and TWITTER had any viable competition.
They don't.

Then you also have this aspect of information dissemination:
https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6
https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/

Granted, these particular articles are from 2012 and 2017, but I don't think much has changed since then. A different side to the coin, maybe.
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: CoolAM Radio on February 11, 2021, 0016 UTC
DJ Mick Woods - FaceBook Prison Blues (Parody!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W01IwOGJQE4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W01IwOGJQE4)


André
CoolAM Radio Productions
http://jingleproductions.coolam.nl
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: zackers on February 11, 2021, 2045 UTC
Well, I looked more into this and Facebook said the link to hfunderground.com violates their community rules about sexual content and nudity. WHAT? Where's the sexual content and nudity here? I want to see it.  ;)
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: zackers on February 11, 2021, 2049 UTC
So I disagreed with their findings and I get a message that they have reviewed their decision and found that hfunderground.com does NOT violate their community standards, and allowed the post to be posted.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: HF Underground and Facebook?
Post by: ChrisSmolinski on February 11, 2021, 2257 UTC
So I disagreed with their findings and I get a message that they have reviewed their decision and found that hfunderground.com does NOT violate their community standards, and allowed the post to be posted.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Congrats!

Could you post the URL (of your post on Facebook, not the HFU link itself) or send it to me in a PM? I'd like to see what they had a problem with.