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SDR - Software Defined Radio / Re: KiwiSDR future/replacement?
« on: July 14, 2023, 2024 UTC »
Having a 1 Hz tuning and display resolution would be very welcome

A 1Hz resolution is possible on the Kiwi, except that it needs to be set by the owner in the Admin interface under the "Config" tab. Would be nice if it was set by default, I have a feeling most owners don't even know about it.


I noticed that about a year ago (maybe more?) the default was changed from 1 Hz display resolution to 10 Hz. Only a few owners have changed it to 1 Hz, in my experience.


I use 1Hz resolution adjustment when the kiwi or receiving station is off frequency. You just enter the 1Hz digit as a user. The digit will not show up in the display but will change.

Hmmm... I suspected that but I never had the low-end audio fidelity to sense 1 through 9 Hz beat tones and couldn't prove it  :D

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The only sense I could make of those is that they're manipulating SNR calculations.

After a while we realized this was a bug. So the masked areas are now excluded from the SNR calculation.

Regards,
John, ZL/KF6VO
KiwiSDR

Pardon the stupid question but before you excluded the masked areas form the SNR calculation, were they showing as SNR = 0 dB (which is my first thought) or are they showing as SNR = "huge dB", because the signal level is still available to the SNR calculation (despite the mask) and the noise in the masked area is basically zero?

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Excuse my ignorance, what does "WARFA" stand for?

It's right in the page of the link provided (https://www.warfa.org/):


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Caught the sign-on at 0030 UTC on the waterfall while looking at other stuff. Jazz in moderately heavy QRN on an SDR in Northeast US.

0047 - ID or announcement between songs. Couldn't understand it but sounded like, "Hello, this is ___ Radio" with a Popeye-like accent.
0103 - Popeye announced something again.
0114 - "Yukon Jack is here". Sounding a bit like Mr. Yeah Man.
0130 - Off?

155
Broadcast Announcements / Re: BallSmacker On Air - 14 July
« on: July 13, 2023, 0041 UTC »
Hoping for a Bastille Day theme.  ;D  :D

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Good reception in the midwest US (S9+10 on peaks) but the SSTV image quality still not great.

SSTV at 2317 UTC:

2321 - Bruce Springsteen
0009 - SSTV (Robot 72):

~0013 - SSTV (Robot 72):

157
The RF Workbench / QRP Labs ProgRock2 Synthesizer
« on: July 11, 2023, 2301 UTC »
Pretty cool. I bought a couple but I haven't had time to try them yet.
  • Eight selectable programmable frequencies up to 228 MHz (roughly)
  • Three outputs (two if using a GPS reference) that can be in phase, 180 degrees out of phase or quadrature (Hello CMCD)
  • Uses the same synthesizer chip in the Elecraft KX3 (and probably a few other radios)
  • Small enough to fit in a HC-6 crystal container!
  • Sold completely built, not a kit, so no soldering
  • Platform shoes and long hair not included (Get it? It's called Prog Rock...)
https://www.qrp-labs.com/progrock2.html

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Thanks for the comments.

I bought a couple of these: HW-576 mono amplifiers from Aliexpress.  They cost around £5 each, and are supposed to be "100 W"....  With a 24V supply, the positive speaker terminal sits at 12V DC without audio applied, and when I lashed one up to a thrown together "U-LULU" circuit (though using a PLL synthesiser rather than a crystal), I got round 24 Watts carrier and could fully modulate it without anything getting hot!  The 3116 IC on the amplifier board has a small heatsink on it, and I expected it to roast, but was pleasantly surprised at how well it survived the abuse!

I have recently spent some time trying to squeeze a little more power out the U-LULU. Of course the complexity of dealing with the interaction between the oscillator circuit, the six inverters used as a gate driver and the one inverter used a buffer between them was anticipated but it's still something of a pain in the backside.

You made a good decision to use an external oscillator. When I use an external frequency source, I too can get ~25 Watts without a struggle but using the crystal oscillator as I have configured the circuit will reduce that to probably less than 20W. I had previously assumed that lower power out than 25 W or so was just simply a tuning issue. In fact I have determined the main culprit is the duty cycle of the crystal oscillator, and I am only able to get ~38% duty cycle out of it, despite a lot of tweaking and optimization work. That wouldn't be a problem but that oscillator signal then goes through two inversions in series, the first being the inverter used as a buffer and the second being the six inverters in parallel driving the FET gate. From the standpoint of duty cycle, two inversions in series is equivalent to no inversion, so this leaves the duty cycle of the gate drive only ~38%, as opposed to an external oscillator drive, which is probably ~50% (but if you use a function generator like I did, it can be anything that you want). Lower duty cycle gate drive leads to lower RF power output. This explains the discrepancy in RF output power.

I tried bypassing the buffer and that delivers a higher duty cycle to the FET gate (100-38% = 62%) which is excellent but, because of the interaction between the oscillator, the gate driver inverters and the FET, the output needs to be retuned (big sigh). My first cut without retuning gave me 26 Watts out but the efficiency was terrible, ~50% versus ~90% previously, and this has lead to a thermal issues, SOA (Safe Operation Area) violations and some destroyed FETs as I work on it.  :(  I'm still getting this sorted out.   :D

I'm not excited about dealing with the circuit interactions and I'm really not interested in frittering away my life on a circuit like this but I also want to make this a little better for folks if I can. I will "pull the eject cord" soon enough and work on other things that aren't so fundamentally messy when I've decided I've either had enough of this tomfoolery or I beat this issue into the ground.  ;D


I added extra filtering to the output of the amplifier, since I really didn't want spurs either side of the carrier - offset by the amplifier switching frequency!  My next iteration of the design will continue to use this audio module (I don't think that I could do much better), a programmable oscillator module (one of the really cheap ones programmable with an Arduino), and a PCB that's off at JLC at the moment.  The high efficiency and small number of cheap parts required suggest that it might be worth extending this design for higher power, adding some simple audio processing and possibly a little MP3 player board that works with either SD cards or USB sticks.  I can see lots of these being shipped to Eastern Europe in the 48m and 41m bands!

I have already made the schematic and created the PCB layout for a follow-up that is similar to what you describe:
1) frequency source of either a) a selectable crystal oscillator (with a real crystal driver chip that is designed to work at HF) or b) an external oscillator input.*
2) selectable audio preamp circuit for those that want to use laptop computer, mobile phone or MP3 player as the audio source
3) RF filtering on the input of the preamp to keep the amount of RF injection hopefully low enough
3) continue to use a Class-E output, tuned for a lower Q than the U-LULU that should be able to deliver roughly equal power output from 6200-6300 KHz,
4) probably with an output somewhere between 30 to 40 Watts, better than U-LULU, largely due to being able to run the gate drive voltage much higher than 6 Volts.
5) PCB footprint currently equal to the Sure audio module I recommend for U-LULU so that the two PCBs can be stacked one on top of the other.

*Or I might just ditch the external oscillator input (though it doesn't take up much PCB space) in lieu of the neat little synthesizers I found (which I mention here https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,115861.0.html)

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S9+20 with the K3FEF KiwiSDR. Super weak direct, in the noise.

0036 UTC-Break
0037 UTC-Brief music
0037 UTC-Break
0038 UTC-Rock And Roll All Nite by Kiss
0040 UTC-Break
0040 UTC-Naughty by Nature by O.P.P
0042 UTC-YL “You are listening to the weakest pirate station of the nation, this is Cold Country Canada 6969 shortwave”
0042 UTC-Break
0044 UTC-Someone speaking
0044 UTC-Break
0045 UTC-Someone speaking
0046 UTC-OFF

Add three hours to all these time checks.

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Presumed.

Greek music.

I was tipped off to this by someone with the username "Ikaros G Radio" with an IP address in Greece tuned to this frequency on an SDR in Ireland. There is a band marker for this on some SDRs.

Very weak in Eire and UK. Sometimes I can find it on an SDR in Norway or Sweden but also weak there too. More exact frequency (presuming the SDR is accurate) is 24997.2 KHz.


Link to the NW Ireland SDR where I hear it best: http://irelandnorthwest.proxy.kiwisdr.com:8073/?f=24997.19samz10

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So do I update title to "Free Your Mind Radio"  ;D

Well, kind of. "Free Your Mind", without the "radio", is how they identified so that's the title.

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Wrong date in the subject line. Fixed. Thank you.

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The RF Workbench / Re: All Electronics going out of business
« on: June 22, 2023, 0115 UTC »
I might swing by the store before they close but they aren't open on weekends, which will make it hard to get there for the next ~2 months. (Inconveniently located near the junction of I-405 and US-101.)

Looks like I'll do an online order.

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The RF Workbench / Re: Oscilloscope recommendation?
« on: June 22, 2023, 0102 UTC »
I'm late to the party but I will put another plug in for a Siglent. I own this model for the home lab: https://siglentna.com/digital-oscilloscopes/sds1000x-u/ Other than a two or three freeze ups where it did not respond to any button pushes or knob turns (and I had to physically unplug it from the mains to reboot it), it is has been good for 3 years of weekly - and sometimes daily - use. The GUI is quite intuitive. I don't find myself having to search very hard for functions that I want. It's not a $10,000 professional 'scope and there are limitations (especially when you come from a world of using higher-end 'scopes) but all in all, it's a good value, in my opinion.

I have not used any Rigol oscilloscopes.

Here's some unsolicited but free advice: if it comes down to a choice between more input channels and other whiz-bang features, in general I'm going to tell you to choose more input channels. This is why I bought a four-channel. I don't use all four channels every day but when I need four channels, I need four channels. The other stuff can possibly be compensated for but it's hard to compensate for not having enough channels.

For work, we have many Tektronix and Keysight oscilloscopes and I have only a few complaints about those. We also have a demonstration model of the Rohde & Schwarz RTP in our lab currently and it is very, very nice. For >$25,000 US, it had better be very nice. https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/products/test-and-measurement/oscilloscopes/rs-rtp-oscilloscope_63493-469056.html

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Peskies / UNID 6919 LSB 0030 UTC 16 JUN 2023
« on: June 16, 2023, 0031 UTC »
Music. This might be a peskie goofing around or it might not.

0033 - Next song. Might be sung in Spanish but I'm not sure.
0041 - Accordion music with what sounds like Portuguese. Female voice saying in English, "(something) forty-one".
0042 - Slight change of frequency.

0050 - I have to step away for a while. Move it to the Peskie or LA sections if you wish.

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