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1561
Utility / Re: Wideband, High-Pulse Radar
« on: October 15, 2013, 2245 UTC »
Good post, and applicable for 'search' modes, but, overlooks ISAR (Inverse synthetic aperture radar) techniques, which allow finer detail to be observed/resolved on targets once something has been detected; by saturating a target with a series of pulses a 'profile' of the target can be detected by observing the minute Doppler shifts imparted on the reflected RF energy ... also using multiple frequencies (in combination with ionospheric sounder data) allows improved target location, allowing some of the vagaries of HF propagation to be 'nulled' out.
 

I have not done any SAR work myself, so have little first-hand knowledge of the systems used, but I have had some small, mostly academic, exposure to them.  Although SAR, and ISAR, use aperture synthesis, via motion, to improve spatial resolution (cross range) the basic range resolution of the system is still defined by the signal bandwidth.  That is why SAR typically uses very short pulse widths, with bandwidths on the order of 6 MHz or more.  This signal exhibits no chirp or other modulations to increase bandwidth, so for it bandwidth (range resolution) is primarily a function of pulse duration.  Remember I mentioned range resolution as it applies to the ability to discriminate more than one target, not as a factor in accuracy of range determination or to plot motion.

Another issue is the PRF of this “system”.  This PRF is about 300 Hz.  Gough and Hawkins (Jan 1997, IEEE JOE) suggest a SAR aperture motion (target motion, ISAR) per pulse of no more than D/4.  At 300 Hz this means a target motion of no more than 75 m/s, roughly 270 km/h.  OK for ships, but not most tactically important airborne objects.

However, assuming this signal was using some SAR or ISAR technique, every time I have watched this signal it is essentially never up for any length of time, typically less than 2 minutes (pulsed, longer if you include its CW time) per frequency, and often less than 45 minutes total in 8 hours.  It often hits a specific frequency range (and thus illumination cell for given propagation conditions) only once or twice in a 24 hour period.  It simply does not illuminate any target area long enough or often enough to be a usable radar, regardless of other performance limitations.

Yeah, one could play lots of games with unusual processing to say this might be some kind of radar, but as I said before, it is almost certainly not a radar, I will further add, in my opinion.  It is certainly not a radar using common techniques (considering the waveform) applied to skywave HF radar.

I guess the important take-away from my post is that to me it does not feel like a radar, although it could, technicaly, be possible using some obscure (for the application when using such a waveform) techniques.

T!

1562
Spy Numbers / Re: new frequency for HM01?
« on: October 14, 2013, 1403 UTC »
With any numbers station, and particularly with the Cubans, one (or even a couple) transmission does not make it a new frequency of use.  Many numbers stations operators have errors in settings, accidental uses of frequencies and modes, and the Cubans seem to do this more than others.  He is called Pedro for a reason.

The Cubans apparently use the same transmitters for Radio Habanna Cuba, their numbers transmissions, and some of their jammers.  It is not all that uncommon for them to forget to change the freq, and for numbers to come up on a scheduled R. Habanna or jammer freq, or the other way around.  Or other times their numbers (or R. Habanna, or a jammer) may appear one time on an oddball, unexplained, frequency and never be seen there again.

These days HM01 is pretty much AM only, but in the past the Cubans made many errors in transmission mode.  M08a, V02a, and SK01 were all normally sent in AM, with M08a using MCW, a modulated 1 kHz tone instead of keying the transmitter off and on.  To receive this M08a the listener had a few options, either tune to the correct frequency in AM mode, the correct frequency in either USB or LSB mode, or plus or minus 1 kHz in CW mode, it all worked.  But sometimes, on a regular schedule, M08a had no AM carrier present.  It was not keying the carrier on and off, as one does with true CW, but rather it was still using the 1 kHz modulation, but the transmitter was typically in LSB mode.  In these cases the listener could tune to the same frequency as the AM transmission, but in LSB mode, or they could tune 1 kHz low and in CW mode.  This led to some M08a schedules having more than one frequency listed, often 1 kHz apart.

What does the above have to do with errors in mode?  Sometimes after an M08a (no carrier) transmission they would forget to switch out of LSB mode.  Resulting in V02a and SK01 transmissions in LSB instead of AM.  Sometimes they would catch these errors mid transmission, and you would see the signal go from LSB to AM without pause.

The Chinese have the same bad habit with V26.  V26 transmissions are almost always preceded by 2 other transmissions, a Chinese 4+4 digital modem in LSB, and then M97 in CW.  Sometimes the transmitter is left in LSB when switching form the 4+4 to M97, so the M97 ends up being 1 kHz low.  M97/V26 transmits on 3 frequencies at once normally, all in the same modes, but one time I caught each freq in a different mode, one LSB, one AM, and one USB.

The point of all that rambling is that errors happen.  Watch 7320 kHz and see if HM01 returns, but don’t be surprised if it never does.  There do appear to be some frequency changes happening for HM01, but that might be normal as winter sets in, or possibly just as time goes on.  Most numbers stations do change freqs over time, sometimes to keep up with seasonal propagation changes and other times for reason only they know.

T!

1563
Too weak here to make out much.  I can tell the music is very bluesy.  About S3 here.  But still over an hour and a half from sundown, so S3 during daylight aint bad.

T!

1564
They followed up the broadcast with two SSTV transmissions. By the time I'd missed the 1st one entirely, and only got a partial decode of the 2nd one.

Let's just say that what has been seen cannot be unseen...  :o

Did anyone else get these? Is that what I think it is?? No, nevermind, I don't want to know. 


No, the 2 SSTV images sent on 6935 kHz USB after RML left the air were probably not RML, the signals looked pretty different.  The pictures may have been labeled Red Mercury Labs, but this appears to be the same station that transmitted SSTV images over a couple of pirates last night.  At one point this same transmitter was used to ID as PPVR, but I have no idea if it was the real PPVR or not.  This also appears to be the same transmitter that sent an SSTV at 0439 UTC on top of Pirate Radio Boston, on 6925 kHz.

T!

1565
Turtlehead Radio up with ID on 6925 kHz, USB, at 0255 UTC, October 10, 2013.  On top of Liquid Radio on 6925.24 kHz AM.

T!

1566
Can make out talking and music, but not enough to ID anything.  Is about S3 to S4 with an S2 noise level and some Peskie traffic around.

T!

1567
Very weak here, and Peskies very strong, but sounded like it might have been a Pirates Week relay at about 0218 UTC.

T!

1568
UNIDed, 6945 kHz, USB, October 10, 2013, started about 0209 UTC.

0211 UTC, Everybody Knows
0214 UTC, Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Iron Maiden
0228 UTC, Off?
0231 UTC, back on, Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, Gordon Lightfoot
0237 UTC, Simple Man, Lynyrd Skynyrd
0243 UTC, RedMercury Labs ID

Fairly sure this is Red Mercury Labs (edit, and it was ;) ).

T!

1569
Utility / Re: Iranian Radar 11 meters 27 Sep 2013
« on: October 08, 2013, 1901 UTC »
Actually, sounds like one of the polar ionosphere 'radars' with an unusually high sweep rate. Normally, as you know, they sweep a LOT slower, but, I have seen them fairly fast before well below 10 meters ... a couple years back I noted the 'sweepers' active between 27.5 and below 28 MHz ...

The ionospheric radars you describe most often use an FMCW waveform, typically LFM, although not all of them, the SuperDARN, for example, uses a simple pulse.

The slower sweep rates of the ionospheric radars are specifically chosen to work with the anticipated ranges targeted by the radar.  The repetition rate of an uncoded sweep (or uncoded pulse, for a pulse type radar) sets the maximum unambiguous range.

However, stepping outside the area of ionospheric radars, to HF radars looking for missiles, ships, and aircraft, the LFM / LFMCW waveform is still the most common used.  For a variety of reasons simple pulse type systems are a minority on HF.

This radar could indeed be swept vs pulsed, I do not have enough information to tell for sure.  The shape of the spectrum does not support a rectangular pulse transmission, but it might support a shaped pulse envelope to reduce bandwidth (as is done with the pulsed SKiYMET HF Meteor radar, there is a video on my Youtube channel if you are not familiar with that radar).  By the same token the spectrum does not really support an FMCW transmission either, I would expect that to be more flat topped, however every time I have received it the SNR has been too low for me to place a lot of confidence in that.  I simply don’t know if it is swept or pulsed, but if it is pulsed it is a shaped pulse.

The ionospheric radars and “real” radars (looking for aircraft, ships, etc) can use identical waveforms, and it can be extremely difficult or impossible to tell them apart.  Some are on continuously (such as the British PLUTO radar) and others jump around, frequency hopping and hitting different frequency ranges to tailor the illumination area.  If you have not seen and identified a specific radar or sounder before sometimes the best you can do is make a “best guess” at what it is.  In general if I see something hitting a specific frequency range once every 5 minutes or less often I think of it as a probable ionospheric radar.  If I see it revisiting a frequency range every few seconds I think of it as a probable radar.  And just to show there is always an exception, the SuperDARN radar is on nearly continuously, frequency hopping around a fairly confined range of frequencies (although were in the spectrum this range in varies with conditions).  And the SuperDARN is looking at atmospherics, not man made targets.

As a practical matter, a bistatic CW RADAR can (and does) operate at a LOT lower RF power level and can do so on account of the BWs (bandwidths) involved, what with noise power being proportional to BW and all ... meaning short PW radars require a LOT more power on account of maybe a 1 MHz or 5 MHz occupied BW ... I would expect to see simple 'carriers' as opposed to sweeping for a simple Bi-static CW detection radar ... but then one enters into the area of FM or 'swept' radars and a two (or bistatic) site setup, where the range can now be calculated knowing when the sweep started ... unambiguous range being associated with the starts of successive sweeps ...

Pulsed radars with a BW of 1 to 5 MHz (3 dB points, approximation BW@3dB point ~ 1/PW, this is not exact at all, but gives a rough working number) would have pulse widths from about 200 nanoseconds to about 1 microsecond.  While that kind of pulse width is common at microwave frequencies I don’t think I have ever seen an HF pulsed radar with such a short PW.  Again using the SuperDARN or the HF TIGER as an example of HF pulsed radar those systems use a 300 microsecond pulse, or about 3.3 kHz of BW (3 dB).  The old Russian Woodpecker used a 3.1 millisecond pulse, and should have had about a 322 Hz BW (3 dB), however the Barker coding used caused this pulse transmission to not exhibit the typical sin (x) / x shape of a simple rectangular (or trapezoidal) pulse.

Not 100% sure I understand what you are getting at with the rest of that paragraph, so if I have misunderstood forgive me.

Pure unmodulated CW radars are rare on microwave frequencies (outside of things like speed guns and as missile illuminators), and I don’t think I have ever seen or heard of one on HF, at least not inquite a while, maybe not post WW II.  An unmodulated CW radar (either semi-monostatic or bistatic) can only yield two things, bearing (with a directional antenna and something like a monopulse feed) and radial velocity based on Doppler.  It cannot yield distance or any target detail.  They do bring to the table high average power on the target and the ability to notch out non-moving objects, a good form of MTI if you will.  By using a source / transmitter with low phase noise, and a notch filter with steep skirts on the CW transmitted frequency, your ability to discriminate slow moving targets from the clutter is limited by the notch width and the spectral purity of the transmitted signal.  You can detect anything with a radial velocity relative to the transmitter that is great enough to produce a Doppler shift outside the notch filter.

HF FM radars can be either bistatic or monostatic.  Bistatic is most common because it is easier to do, easier to protect the receiver from the transmitted energy and to notch out the transmitted frequency, resulting in lower Doppler target detection.  And although it is not very common, you can encode the swept FM so that you can detect nth time around targets, extending the unambiguous range while not requiring slower sweep rates.

Unless this radar is used constantly, it's pretty useless as a detection radar as well (right?). The angular resolution would be poor at 27 MHz ... multiple receivers could yield position much as a GPS receiver computes a position looking at the Doppler shift from GPS several birds and working the 'math' for a fix. What does not figure is the sweep, unless it is a simple two-site only bi-static detection FM (swept freq) radar which then gives range resolution with some sacrifice of Doppler speed determination (really useful only for known "to or from" radial courses anyway).

The radar can be seen for hours on end, and the burst rate seen is high enough for good detection of targets.  It is a much faster burst rate than something like the US ROTHR (AN/TPS-71 radar).  This suggests, to me, the Iranian radar is looking for something that moves faster than the ROTHR looks for.

The angular resolution does not have to be poor at 27 MHz, we have no idea of the size of the array.  It is quite possible to get reasonable beam widths at such frequencies, it just takes a larger aperture.  And it also depends on what their spec is, what is desirable or acceptable for resolution.  A res of 3 or 4 degrees might be all they need for their application, which is possibly to queue another system.

What I find interesting about this radar is the combination of frequency and the repetition rate.  As we both indicated above, the rep rate (be it pulsed or swept) limits the unambiguous range of an unencoded pulse.  Although I have not been able to look at the signal in detail I have not yet seen anything leading me to believe it is encoded.  If it is not encoded we can look at its PRI’s and calculate a maximum possible usable range.  The two PRI’s in my video are roughly 872 Hz and 308 Hz (I did not actually measure them, just eyeballed the spikes on a spectrum display, but should be close).  308 Hz would yield a maximum possible range of about 487 km, and 872 Hz would be about 172 km.  Both of these ranges seem odd to me when combined with the observed frequencies, I just do not normally think of the 25-30 MHz area as a good choice for 170 to 500 km paths, not when 4 to 10 MHz will probably do it better.  I suppose this range would be good to detect objects high in the Earth’s atmosphere, so that propagation becomes less of a player, but then why not move up in freq and shrink the antenna?  Or maybe I am missing something about this radar, having not really seen it very much at all.

T!

1570
The Galleria?  Gag me with a spoon?  Come on, you got to have some Valley Girl there to play...



T!

(edit)  I hit submit just in time to hear Moon Unit start to sing ;)

1571
That recording is the one the guy on the Spooks list heard.  It is the one that is played on Hamsphere almost non-stop.

T!

1572
North American Shortwave Pirate / Re: LTO Radio 6925USB *0157 6Oct13
« on: October 06, 2013, 0258 UTC »
been reporting it all along in VAGINA RADIO THREAD...it came on right after them...finally id'd as L T O RADIO......S-9+20 in coastal NC....



PPVR started on top of LTO at about 0235, so I guess they could be reported together.

T!

PPVR was on well before 0120z....



Yeah, PPVR had been on before.  But it was off for the first several songs LTO played, and then started up on top of LTO again.  LTO started at 0159 and from then to about 0235 only LTO was on, and about 0235 PPVR came back on.

T!

1573
UNIDed signal, S7+ here, 6940 USB.  Judging by the signal features it is probably RML, although "The Late Movie" has similar features.  I am betting RML.

0242, "Big Time" Peter Gabrial

0301, RML voice.

T!

1574
North American Shortwave Pirate / Re: LTO Radio 6925USB *0157 6Oct13
« on: October 06, 2013, 0240 UTC »
been reporting it all along in VAGINA RADIO THREAD...it came on right after them...finally id'd as L T O RADIO......S-9+20 in coastal NC....



PPVR started on top of LTO at about 0235, so I guess they could be reported together.

T!

1575
North American Shortwave Pirate / Re: LTO Radio 6925USB *0157 6Oct13
« on: October 06, 2013, 0227 UTC »
S4 to S5 here, and heard "you are welcome, jfarley, you are welcome, jfarley" at 0225, and LTO ID at 0226.  Jfarley message repeated 0227.

T!

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