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HF Beacons / Re: Help for a newbie
« on: September 04, 2013, 1733 UTC »
Haven't gotten a reply, but figured I'd ask a few things here.

Give it time, not everyone checks theses forums 24/7.  I don’t know about others, but I typically hit the forums maybe 2 times a day max unless I am watching a specific thread.

You do not indicate your general location, but I will assume you are in the US and my answers will be predicated on that assumption.  Different nations have different requirements.

Do you always need a ham license to place a transmitter for a fox hunt type game?

The need, or not, for a license to place a transmitter will be driven by the service the transmitter is in.  If the transmitter operates within ham bands then a ham license will be needed and certain performance limitations and transmission requirements will need to be achieved.  If the transmitter is in a service that does not require a license, for example FRS, then a license is not needed (I do not know if the FRS regulations allow unattended operation, that is something that would need to be confirmed, just using FRS as an example).

A Part 15 legal transmitter would not require a license.

If this is not making sense to you, it might help to understand that the “regulations” that control radio transmissions are divided up into multiple parts, each part has separate requirements.  For example Ham radio and CB radio are not the same, and have different requirements.  As does Public Service radio, Family Radio Service, MURS, etc, etc.

How do you pick out a frequency to use? Can you make up your own? How many digits can you use?

The frequency of operation would be a function, again, of the particular service the transmitter is in.  Each service typically has bands the transmitters can operate in, with many services being specifically channelized, meaning you would have to be on one of the specified frequencies.  Using CB as an example you would be able to select from one of 40 channels in the 26965 kHz to 27405 kHz range.  Other services (ham radio, for example) would just give you a maximum and minimum frequency, and you can select any frequency between those points (within certain guidelines).

Please clarify what you mean by “How many digits can you use?”  26.965 MHz, 26965.0 kHz, and 26965000 Hz are all the same frequency, and are all CB channel 1.

I've seen these big antenna's, but are there small antenna's that can be used from a car and then on the ground while searching for the transmitter?

Antenna selection for Fox Hunting is a huge juggling act.  As a general rule the “size” of an antenna is a function of the frequency used.  However there are several compact designs that can be used for RFDF, assuming the user is willing to accept the performance limitations.

In other words, yes, you can probably find a small antenna to do what you want, but this is not a simple question, it cannot be answered quickly, easily, and with detail in few lines of information.  And based on your other questions I assume you do not have adequate background to understand the possible answers.  This last is not a slam on you in any way, I am only saying antennas for RFDF can range from very simple to get quite complex and antenna selection can be a balancing game of compromises, and you sound like you need more background before you can start to understand the factors.

Is it possible to monitor the transmitter from a home area far away to see if a team has found it?
 

The possibilities are only limited by your imagination, technical background, and the depth of your pockets.  If you wanted to, for example, you could absolutely put a camera monitoring the transmitter location, and monitor the site from any location you wanted.

T!

1607
North American Shortwave Pirate / Re: Unid 6925 USB 0348z 9/02/2013
« on: September 02, 2013, 0400 UTC »
Started out S9 or a little better when I first noticed it at 0336z, but faded after that, by 0352z was right down to the noise level.

0339z Echos of my Mind
0344z Girl From the City
0347z We'll Sing in the Sunshine
0353z To Sir, With Love

After that it faded too deep to make out songs.

Might have been an ID at about 0356z, but by then it was so low there was no way I was going to hear it.


T!

1608
Equipment / Re: HF in the car?
« on: September 01, 2013, 1756 UTC »
In both the SUVs that regularly get driven off-road I have HF, 160 meters to at least 70 cm, one has HF to 23 cm.  One has a Kenwood TS-480SAT for HF, and a Tarheel 300A.  The other has a Kenwood TS-2000X and again a Tarheel 300A.  Both of those setups work pretty well and I regularly monitor pirates and utilities from the vehicles.

In the wife’s SUV (never goes off-road ;) ) in addition to VHF/UHF I have HF RX also, in the form of an Icom R2500.  The HF antenna used is a Hamstick.  Normally the 40 meter Hamstick is the one that is on it, but sometimes one of the others.  This works, and is OK for casual listening, but really not optimal.

My Miata has an Icom R1500 to go along with the Yaesu FT-8900R, but the antenna used by the R1500 is a 42” whip, and leaves a lot to be desired on HF.  It does work, but rather like a portable.

T!

1609
S4 to S5 into the Mojave Desert, of California.  Would be pretty fair copy if the Chinese OTHR was not setting on freq aas it does every morning.  As it is I can tell when music is on or when the OP is talking, but that is about it.  ID at 1232 UTC faded up to solid copy during the ID.

Peskies in SS are setting on 6950 USB though, so I am listening in LSB to hear the audio.

T!

1610
That supposed "Black Magic Woman" at 0114 UTC sounded an awefull lot like "The Highwayman", by the Highwaymen ;)

Audio sounds a little pinched tonight for some reason, maybe just conditions.

T!

1611
Oh yeah!  Some William Shattner baby!

And thanks for the E-QSL the other day RML.

S9, as normal, in the Mojave Desert, making it through the lightning crashes and flash flooding.

T!

1612
Transmission looks just like RML, but the music is not his normal fare, at least I think not.  Or maybe it is just an 80's - 90's kind of thing tonight, so far everything is 1982 to 1992.

OK, stumped me, whatever song was after "Under the Milkyway" I have no idea what it is.

T!

1613
Other / Re: Pips network up, multiple freqs, 2152 UTC, Aug 26, 2013
« on: August 27, 2013, 0100 UTC »
Home now, I can start looking at the recordings.

It looks like both networks went off the air during the same cycle, roughly at 2312:40z.

T!


(edit)

Pips were on the air unbroken from 2152z (already in progress) until 2312:40z.  It looks as if both networks went off air within one 6 second cycle of each other.

Initial look at frequencies shows these active:
6225
6550
6725
6750
7700
8275
8825
8900
8975
9050
9225
10050
10450
10575
11025
11150 (2 pulses)
11225
11300
12025
12450
13250
13325
13500
13875
14400
15100
15400
15550
15625
16000
16350
16550
16725 (2 pulses)
17475
17650
17950
17975
18050
18100
18450
18625
19300

Most of these are the same as seen before.  There are one or two new ones.  I will check old recordings to see if they were always there and just noticed (most probable).  Frequencies did not extend as low or as high as they have in the past, but that could just be conditions.

1614
Utility / Re: 6sec Dits on 8274
« on: August 26, 2013, 2252 UTC »
The frequency for the Pips is 8275 kHz, along with about 55+ other freqs, see here:
http://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,12307.0.html

T!

1615
Other / Pips network up, multiple freqs, 2152 UTC, Aug 26, 2013
« on: August 26, 2013, 2227 UTC »
Pips netowrk is up on multiple freqs, looks like pretty much the same freqs as last go round.

I am in and out of the house, no time to list freqs now, but made recording 4000 to 26000 kHz, so will grab them later.

See this thread for possible frequencies : http://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,12002.0.html
Another thread with possible frequencies: http://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,11983.0.html

T!

1616
Other / Re: UNID wide band signal 43 meters 1958 UTC 9 Aug 2013
« on: August 26, 2013, 1418 UTC »
Chris, do you still have a file on this signal?  If you do you might make a 20 or 30 second sound clip in USB, say 4 or 5 kHz width and around 6995 kHz c/f.  I really just want to know if this is LFM or if it is pulsed, and the tone spacing.

I have seen a similar freq and width sounder in use, mostly detectable on the west coast, but it looks like the sweep rate of this signal is much higher than the sounder I have seen.  If swept vs pulsed the sounder would be a possible fit.  If pulsed a signal I have a couple other signals as possible fits.

But really nothing in my log is a good match, they all have to be changed or twisted to fit what seems to be shown in that waterfall.

T!

1617
I have no idea on the 17540 kHz signal.  It has a well defined rep rate and width, but to me it really sounds like RFI of some kind.  Arguing against that is the well defined rep rate I mentioned, it does not fit with typical RFI rates.

As for the 13560.7 kHz signal, keep in mind that that is smack in the middle of the ISM band.  RFID and similar systems create a lot of sounds something like what you have recorded.  There is simply no telling what kind of sounds you will run into on 13560 kHz, but most of them are not intended for human consumption.  Personally, whenever I see a signal I cannot ID on 13560 kHz I just ignore it, I spent far too many hours in the past trying to narrow them down to a source / use ;)

T!

1618
Utility / Re: CW 5 letter grps 16263.84 (dial) 2224utc 08/21/2013
« on: August 26, 2013, 1357 UTC »
This could indeed be M51, the format is about right for it.  However, the format is also about right for several Russian Navy transmissions.  And that freq has been used by the Russians in the past, it was very active with 200/1000 FSK last year.

Without a more complete transcript or a repeat transmission this will probably remain unresolved.

T!

1619
Utility / Re: ODD 6993
« on: August 26, 2013, 1347 UTC »
Several different radio types in common use include a beep when keyed or unkeyed.  If the radio PTT was being dropped between groups that would create a beep.

T!

1620
About S8 here, good audio, just a tad wider than 7.5 kHz, starts to roll off at 7.5 kHz with a little energy out to just short of 8 kHz.

T!

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