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1801
In the US receiving these signals generally requires some kind of directional antenna with a little gain even if you are not far from the launch point.  That also means some kind of tracking mount.  It is just not going to be as likely here as in areas using lower frequencies.

With that said, I have tried to receive these a few times, all to no avail thus far.

Ain’t nothing extinct about jack rabbits in the Mojave.  Damn things are in my wife’s garden all the time.  Youngest grandson and I just bagged him his first last weekend, in the El Paso Mountains.

T!

1802
Spy Numbers / Re: Numbers/Data (Cubans) 17.540 1/26/13 @ 2300Z
« on: January 27, 2013, 0005 UTC »
At 2300z (Jan 26, 2013) HM01 came up on 17540 kHz.  It typically stays up for about one hours, in this case it stopped audio at 2355 and the carrier dropped off air at 2359:38.  The previous hour (from 2200 to 2255) HM01 was up on the frequency 17480 kHz.  I believe, but have never confirmed, that the 2200 (17480 kHz) and 2300 (17540 kHz) messages are the same.  Keep in mind specific day and times are used, so there is not, for example, a transmission set like tonight every night, but there is one every Saturday night.

If you want to demod the data you can using DIGTRX, the format is RDFT.  Of course, the data will still be encrypted, but it is possible to see if they send the same data twice or during different time periods.

T!

1803
Chris & Token: Thanks for the comments! That helps a lot. I was looking at reviews last night & saw a lot of positives on the SDR-IQ, but also saw a number of people who said that it was much noisier than the typical receiver. Do many of these receivers stack up well against the older contingent of top-end hobby-level radios (e.g., R-8, R-5000, ICR-71, NRD-525)?
Thanks again!

The Perseus and especially the Excalibur will compete favorably with any of the older top end hobby level radios, indeed any hobby level radio from any time period.  Since getting my Excalibur I only turn on the R71, R75, or the NRD-525 when I need another freq watched, in fact the R71 and -525 are not even on my primary listening bench anymore, being back in the radio room instead (my primary listening area is in the living room).  I have used the Net-SDR also and find it very good, but have no idea how it technically compares, I did not use it on my own bench next to my other equipment.

In my opinion I think the Excalibur is better than the Perseus, and yes I do have both of them.  They are side-by side here but I use the Excalibur daily, and I just leave the Perseus on my remote node for other people to use.  I use the SDR-IQ's for watching spot freqs and doing scheduled recordings,a nd one of them stays online 24/7 for other people to use as a remote.  The Excalibur Pro (G33DDC) is even better than the Excalibur (G31DDC), but is almost twice the price.  Again my opinion, but unless you need remote control operation the Excalibur or the Excalibur Pro is the best hobby RX, SDR or traditional, on the market today.  If you need or want remote operation then the Perseus or the Net-SDR / SDR-IP might be the best choice, possibly not quite as good as the Excalibur (that could be argued in either direction), but the Excal cannot be remoted.  The Excalibur Pro can be remoted, but that is a $200 option.

If you want to see how the numbers stack up (for RX performance) a good resource is the Sherwood Engineering table of measurements:
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Note that not everything is on there, and the table is sorted on 3rd order narrow spaced dynamic range, a good indicator but not the only thing that makes a receiver good.  The list is long and well done, but naturally not complete, every radio just cannot be on it.  Note that the Excalibur is not on the list, and neither are any of the RFSpace pieces of hardware, they have not been tested.  But, the Perseus is on the list, and you can see that it compares well.  And, as I said, the Excalibur is even better, in my opinion as well as in several measurable specifications.

As for the SDR-IQ and noise, it is a low cost option so it is not a top performer.  It still performs well but one of the areas it is a little lacking is a higher noise floor than the more expensive units.  This is not bad at all, just not as “good”.  If you are talking about noise in the audio that is going to depend a bit on your computers sound setup.  I have seen people complain about the audio not sounding good, maybe being sharp and harsh, but then hearing another SDR-IQ and saying that one sounds good.  The speakers and sound card in your computer will shape the sound, so not every installation will sound the same.  A good set of speakers / headphones will make it sound better, and a low end sound card can kill it.

I would have to say that in general I find the SDRs to NOT have as good sound as a good traditional RX.  If sound quality is your driving criteria you might not be as happy with an SDR.

If noise floor is the driver for you then the SDR-IQ is not going to be great, while the better SDR units will be good.  The Excalibur has a noise floor of about –131 dBm, the Excalibur Pro about –135 dBm (both from my own measurements, but in line with WinRadios published performance figures).  The Perseus is a bit worse than this, at about –125 to –127 dBm.  The R5000 has a noise floor of about –131 dBm (Sherwood list), the R-71A has a noise floor of about –135 dBm (Sherwood list), the Drake R8 is about –131 dBm (Sherwood list), and the NRD-525 is about –132 dBm (Sherwood list).  All of these radios will show a noise floor that is below the average ambient noise at almost any listening location.

The Excalibur (G31DDC) sensitivity is also in line with most of those radios, and the Excalibur Pro (G33DDC) is more sensitive than the G31DDC, equaling or beating the best of the traditional radios above.  The Perseus will have the worst sensitivity of the bunch listed, but not bad.  The SDR-IQ will be worse than the Perseus in pretty much every category, but it is also about half the price.

In performance the upper end SDRs are great, better than any hobby grade RX on the market today and probably as good as hobby grade RX’s have ever been, but SDR operation is not for everyone.  Some people do not want to be tied to a computer or an operating system that might not be usable in 15 years.  Speaking of computers, they can be noise sources.  Some users do have to track down and eliminate noise sources, including sometimes hard to isolate computer noise.  I am fortunate, this has not been a real issue for me, I have had to do very little, almost nothing, to deal with it, but I have seen people frustrated by it.

T!

1804
US Navy units have been setting up Gator (Link 11) on 5717 kHz.  They have been on the freq for a while.  This also happens to be a SAR freq for Canadian Halifax Mil.  Several times Trenton Mil has tried to contact the US Navy units and have them move off frequency.  So far either the US Navy units have not heard Halifax or they are ignoring them.

This video is one of the times Halifax tried to get the stations to QSY.  The video is about 3 minutes long and the warning from Trenton is at about 01:30 into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXZNL2KjLE

T!

(edit) changed Trenton to Halifax.  I have recordings of both Halifax and Trenton trying to move the comms, but I described Trenton and uploaded Halifax...DOH!

1805
Can the SDR-IQ record chunks of spectrum like the Perseus? When I get an SDR, I want it for recording ranges overnight or when I'm away from home...oh and I think it'd be really handy for hearing the Irish church pirates on the CB band.

To the OP, you might want to look at the Afedri SDR, approximately the same performance as the SDR-IQ but half the price.  Not to mention if you opt to communicate via Enet instead of USB it has a wider bandwidth.  With that said, I have couple of SDR-IQs here, and they are very solid performers, and well supported in software.  The Afedri SDR might be as good, but is probably not as plug-and-play as the SDR-IQ.

AY, yes, pretty much every "SDR" on the market can record a chunk of bandwidth.  The width of that chunk varies with the exact model.  Even though the WinRadio G3XX series (not to be confused with the G3XDDC series) is advertised as an SDR and meets the technical description as such I do not consider them "SDRs" as the hobby community has come to know, primarily because of their limited record bandwidth (less than 25 kHz).

Some currently marketed SDRs and widths (not complete list by any stretch of the imagination), the value listed is the maximum spectrum recordable bandwidth, pretty much all of them will record narrower if you want to save hard drive space.  This list is only SDRs with HF coverage, and does not include VHF only and up SDRs, but does include things that do HF and VHF and up. The rough order is low to high price:

SoftRock Ensemble II     Up to 192 kHz, depends on your sound card specs
Various other soundcard SDRs     Up to 192 kHz, depending on soundcard
Afedri SDR     230 kHz (USB connection), 1.2 MHz (network connection)
SDR-IQ     190 kHz
WinRadio G31DDC Excalibur     2 MHz
QS1R     2 MHz
Perseus     1.6 MHz
Net-SDR     2 MHz
WinRdaio G33DDC Excalibur Pro     4 MHz
SDR-IP     2 MHz
AOR AR2300 (with IQ option)     1 MHz
WinRadio G39DDC Excelsior     2 MHz (x2)
AOR AR5001D (with IQ option)     1 MHz
AOR AR Alpha     1 MHz

As a note, sound card SDRs are a very low cost option, the bang for buck is just hard to beat.  However they are not as good a performer as the DDC (pretty much everything not soundcard) SDRs are.


T!

1806
It came up here tonight prior to 2300 and at 0235 is still going strong.  More pauses in it tonight than last night though, and longer pauses.  Also, at one point, it stepped down in power at least 20 dB, while not going off the air.

Pauses:


T!

1807
Hello all,

For the past 5+ hours the 25 meter band has been hit by broadband noise.  This noise is very similar to what might be seen from an PRN or similar radar, but I have not seen such an application in HF before.  I have no idea if this signal is unintentional or if it is intentional, I suspect intentional.  What its purpose is again I do not know.

The signal is very wide, covering roughly 11250 to 11900 kHz, with it speak around 11610 kHz.  It is not a local signal to me, it was first reported on the east coast at around 2150 UTC and at that time I could not detect it at all.  As the evening progressed the signal started coming out of the noise for me.  Around 0100 UTC it was strong enough to wipe out many broadcast stations in that band.  At this time (0320 UTC) it is starting to fade, but still has significant strength.

The signal appears strongest on east coast (USA) remotes but can be detected on European remotes also.

At least twice the signal has paused for a short time, on the order of one or two seconds, once at 0023 UTC and once at 0303 UTC.  I have no idea if it did this other times or not, I was not watching it the whole time, those are just the ones I noticed.  During the pause the absence of signal makes the total width covered very obvious.

0023 UTC pause:


0303 UTC pause:


Hopefully it goes away soon, and does not become a regular fixture.

T!

1808
Other / Re: "HOMER" UNID now on 12088 khz USB 16:25 utc 1-7-13
« on: January 08, 2013, 0228 UTC »
This exact traffic was also reported, on 8051.5 USB (reported as 8051.35 then), back in June of 2012.  I think the fact it was on at least 3 freqs at one time, at least 2 of them with 15+ kHz wide audio, would get it away from the realm of a guy who like the Simpsons with a rig that has excellent audio.

T!

1809
HF Beacons / Kelsie back on air, 4096.6 kHz, 08 Jan, 2013
« on: January 08, 2013, 0056 UTC »
It appears Kelsie is back on the air.  This beacon on 4096.6 has been off air for a time, but I am receiving it locally here at 0055 UTC, Jan 08, 2013.

T!

1810
Sounds like MARS to me.  And I am pretty sure they have used that freq before.

T!

1811
Other / Re: UNID 13570 khz USB 14:56 utc 1-7-13
« on: January 07, 2013, 1626 UTC »
A recording of about a minute of todays 13570 kHz TX.  Note the very wide audio, over 15 kHz wide, this ain't your daddy's ham rig returned.

[youtube]2RpD2wAnCd4[/youtube]

When I heard this station yesterday my wife was actually the one who commented that it sounded like Hommer Simpsons voice ;)

T!

1812
Other / Re: CW 6933 2115 01/03/2013
« on: January 04, 2013, 1546 UTC »
CW 6933 2115+ 01/03/2013; Mostly groups of five letters w/ a distinct "++" then "NNGTN" repeated five times at one point, still in progress @2121; "+ + + IWNDA DWNDA DVNDA DWNDA DLNDA" @2123; Ended w/ a "+ + T" @2135

Note: Having fun with a just installed MultiPSK.

This does indeed sound like cut numbers, and might well be Cuban M08a.

One thing to remember when using software to decode CW is that no software is infallible, and the lower the signal to noise ratio the more errors even good software will make.

Your “+” signs are probably actually Morse code digraphs AR, the + sign and the digraph AR use the same dits and dahs, but AR is generally the translation in this application.  + is seldom used in CW, while AR is a frequent shorthand for stop copy or all received.  Writing it as + is not wrong at all, but can be confusing to some.  Also, if you were to look for a description of M08a it would define this as AR, not +, and might mislead someone who does not know they are the same character.

Other errors in the example you have posted.  These cut numbers use the pattern ANDUWRIGMT = 1 to 0, example is A=1, N-2, D=3, U=4, etc to T=0.  As you see from that there are no L or V, but your copy shows each used, this is most likely an error on the part of the software.  Possibly a dit or dah from the character before or after was incorrectly parsed to that character.

With software decoders and signals without large signal to noise you can often record a few minute segment of CW and play it back repeatedly, getting slight variations in the transcribed code each time.  The higher the signal to noise ratio the better the transcription is likely to be.

I try to tell people who do not copy code by ear that software decoders are a nice tool that can give you a general idea of what is being sent, but treat it like something you read on the Internet, it might not all be there, and sometimes it is an out and out lie.

T!

1813
Spy Numbers / Re: V2 6772 0406 12/31/2012
« on: January 03, 2013, 1731 UTC »
V02 essentially changed to V02a in 1996 and there have been no reported V02 since around that time.  V02a sends three messages during the one time period, all three consist of 150 groups.

T!

(edit) spelling error, the T goes before the N in essentially, right index finger must be faster than the left index finger.

1814
Spy Numbers / Re: v2a-sk01 12-19-12 5855 am 0500z
« on: January 03, 2013, 1722 UTC »
I've noticed this a couple of times too. "pedro" is big on digital ham modes lately. anyone know what mode they use?

RDFT.  DIGTRX will demodulate the data if you can keep it running.

T!

1815
Spy Numbers / Re: V2a 5855 10:00z 12/31/2012
« on: January 03, 2013, 1719 UTC »
thanks alot Token, I'm not up to date at all on numbers stations & your reply was very helpful. I had never considered the cell phone as modem aspect of digital numbers transmissions. It still seems like the phone/laptop would possibly betray a discovered agent by having a record of its use for this purpose.

I am sure the possibility of electronic data being used as ammunition/evidence against an agent is there, however it is probably no more incriminating than possessing a one time pad or visiting a dead drop to pick up an OTP replacement/update.

If a person is already to the point of being interrogated/looked at closely then they are probably hosed, regardless of what system they use.

It's interesting that I had been up late reading Simon Masons book (again) when I decided to see if there were any #'s broadcasts on . I remember hearing new star around that time (10:00z) many years ago. It took me less than a minute to find HM01. By the way, I caught them in progress, do they still use the "attencion"? 

New Star Broadcasting, Enigma V13, is still active but I do not think they currently have a 1000z time slot.  I know they have an 0700z and 0800z slot (both in the 7 MHz range, not sure of exact freqs) and I think they have a 1200z and 1300z slot.

As for the HM01 and use of “attencion”, I do not believe they do use that term, or the “final” at the end.   As I said I do not follow the Cuban stations closely, but the couple of HM01’s I have caught from the start appeared to go right into numbers.  V02a does still use “attencion” and “final”.

T!

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