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Spy Numbers / Re: High Frequency Global Communications System
« on: June 12, 2010, 2113 UTC »
I briefly glanced at a page, that to me suggests the complexity of this system.
Will read in depth when I can find the time.
Several ways to find it, name of the page is: "Radio waves below 22 kHZ"
click on the lower right link: "Reception of Submarine comminication systems"
by: R. Romero and V. Lehtoranta. Enlarge the pictures, especially the second- food for thought.

I initialy googled VLF and clicked on the Wikipedia article regarding Very Low Frequencies. One of the links at the bottom is: :"Radio waves below 22 kHz"     

I was a 2819 KG 13TtyTech USMC 1973-1977 I was in the rear with the gear.
Carried a rifle and bayonet for 13 weeks in boot camp; damn things get heavy- backcharge them for my lower back.
Cheers

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Spy Numbers / Re: High Frequency Global Communications System
« on: June 11, 2010, 2050 UTC »
I stand corrected; that should be 6739.0 kHz USB. These frequencies are from the Wikipedia article.
I have read a little about the VLF component of this system; can't help extrapolating that this in it's totality is one vast, intricate system.
My skills are outdated; but I repaired communications equipment in the
Miliatary- Went to KG 13 Crypto school at Lackland and yes I did carry a rifle and a bayonet, kids.
Cheers.

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Spy Numbers / Re: High Frequency Global Communications System
« on: June 11, 2010, 0438 UTC »
It appears I have succesfully saved this recording on my flashdrive and medafile account. Couldn't repeat it if I had to, just play around with it long enough and odds are sooner or later you will be able to file it, if interested. I am not much of a "Tech Gadgeteer" when it comes to this sort of thing.

I am useing a computer at the local Cal Poly Tech/Farm School here in San Luis Obispo, California- Outdated Browser and sticky keyboard- unbelievable. A semester of "Charm School" should be required for graduation.

Again, not much about this system on Internet- these listings and comments do show up in a general search.

Must close young scholar across the way, chews here gum like a Heifer- reinstate the Draft maybe?

I'm out of here-CHEERS.

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Spy Numbers / Re: High Frequency Global Communications System
« on: June 11, 2010, 0305 UTC »
This is new and intersting to me. I did not know about this until just recently; quite fascinating.
Observed quite a bit of activity these frequencies the last few days.
Evidently, this is yesterday's news for many; for the rest of us, if someone could permanently record Mr. Outhouse Radio's excellent and representative audio file it would be helpful. Unfortunately, I don't have the equipment or expertise. I opened up an account  in Mediafire and have attempted to file the audio sample; ditto on a flashdrive- not going to hold my breath on either attempt.
Understandably, there is not much information about this System; nor should there be; but it is interesting to observe.
At any rate, there are other recordings on the Internet and youtube.
TNX VY 73 ..

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Spy Numbers / Re: High Frequency Global Communications System
« on: June 09, 2010, 2216 UTC »
This excellent recording from outhouse has evidently been deleted; I can no longer download it. Hope it turns up again.
I think Outhouse radio is located in England; but, not sure.
Lack of turbulence indicated to me that echo effect was most likely due to the simultaneous reception of the same signal from several different transmitter (Relay?) sites and resultant time delays. Noted what sounded like to me was slight Teletype Machine Co-Channel interference in background- sounds a little different in SSB Mode.

Basic Internet search will provide some information and audio files; as will youtube.

I have read that this system is remotely controlled from Andrews AFB; I wonder if this is over the Internet?

I get the impression that these frequencies are primarily used for Air Craft. I would assume these Airplanes fly lower than the Ionized Propagation Layers. Must be quite a vast, intricate System.

Cheers

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Spy Numbers / High Frequency Global Communications System
« on: June 02, 2010, 2103 UTC »
Here San Luis Obispo, California I have some HF-GCS observations. I don't know much about this; TNX AGN Token for ID'ing.

in progress  11,175 kHZ USB  23:19-23:21 UTC June 1 2010
phonetic letters; fair signal through heavy local broadband QRM

in progress  13,200 kHz USB 23:29-23:33 UTC June 1 2010
phonetic letters, occassional number, "I say again", "Stand-by"
distinctive final dual tone pips- good signal

in progress  13,200 kHz USB 23:49-00:03 UTC June 1-June 2 2010
noted final dual pips sent twice between small amount of traffic

complete transmission, simultaneously on:
13,200 kHz, 11,175 kHZ, 15,016 kHz ALL USB 00:15-00:18 UTC June 2 2010
Identifying final dual pips, good signals.

My impression is that these are un-recorded messages, read by operators who don't know the actual content. As this appears to be one-time encryption, usually reserved for the most sensitive traffic, I consider these Number Stations.  Unlike typical Numbers Stations that tend to transmit on the hour or the half on some fixed schedule these transmissions to the best of my limited knowledge have no fixed schedule.

Try: 4724 kHz, 6739 kHz, 8992 kHz, 11175 kHz, 13200 kHz and 15016 kHz ALL USB

I have had the best luck so far on 13200 kHz USB; sooner or later you will observe it.

Cheers

67
Spy Numbers / Re: Dunno what this is??
« on: May 27, 2010, 2249 UTC »
I Think what we have here is one of those young "CEO'S". He does good work. To me M8a is downright interesting and excellent copying practice. My Morse Code is not that great, but I can usualy copy one of the  150 5LG groups. Actual message, of course
would not have to take up the entire 150 5LG groups. Cipher Text would merely need be as long as the distributed one-time Key. If this
is hand copyed, individuals are well trained. Walter Kendal Meyers learned Morse Code in the Army (our Army).

Sometimes these transmissions are quite irregular and amatuerish. Makes me wonder about the credibility of this operation. At any rate, you can kind of speculate at the possible number of handlers and recipients an so forth circulating around. I can only speculate that some of this traffic is Legitimate an some isn't. Figuring out which is, and which isn't, is anybodies guess.

In closeing, I'm sure there are people with a lot of knowledge about this I'm not one of them but kind of fun to extrapolate.

Keep up the good work Old Man.

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Spy Numbers / Re: m8a 1858z 8097kc usb
« on: May 25, 2010, 2257 UTC »
TNX for the QTH Try: regular AM; as it most likely is a Tone Modulated AM
Signal. Need to find a computer that will let me download your recordings.
Cheers.

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Spy Numbers / Re: Dunno what this is??
« on: May 23, 2010, 2146 UTC »
Note the Youtube Video: M8a-Morse Numbers Station-Cuba   By: Rogue A007  the frequency is: 8097 kHz

Also, for a sample of SK01 see: 'Atencion' Cuban numbers station-with data!  By MattExzy

Hope this helps. If possible could you give general location? Does not need to be specific, but would be helpful.

The more listings, the better. Thank you.

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Spy Numbers / Re: Near 13205 kHz Phonetic Letters
« on: April 11, 2010, 2108 UTC »
Observed repeat transmission this morning of what to the best of my knowledge is M94.

I have Central California Coast:

M94  6330 kHz 1400-1405 UTC  4/11/2010  Solid
ID 925

Also:

V24 5715 kHz 1430-1435 UTC 4/11/2010 good through noise
co-channel momentarily with jammer 1433 UTC

V24 6215 kHz 1500-1509 UTC 4/11/2010  Strong through noise

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Spy Numbers / Re: Near 13205 kHz Phonetic Letters
« on: April 10, 2010, 1738 UTC »
Thank you for the information. Based upon audio samples, that type of
transmission is what I observed.

Some type of private key, One-time pad encryption in use. I doubt the
Operators know the contents of the message. This is new to me; and
quite an eye-opener. TNX again.

Observed:

M94  6330 kHz  in progress-1404 UTC 4/10/2010  good signal
will listen for possible repeat tomorrow.

V24  5715 kHz 1430-1434 UTC 4/10/2010 poor to fair through noise

V24 6215 kHz 1500-1509 UTC poor through strong noise

RE: V24 6730 kHz 1430-1441  4/5/10 I know you monitor constantly;
I thought it was a stand-out signal for this time of year.

TNX

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Utility / Re: Simultanious EAMs on 11175u
« on: April 08, 2010, 2159 UTC »
Evidently, I have been under a rock. This past Easter Sunday I caught these transmissions on: 13200 USB  in progress 2332-2337 UTC 4/4/10

and 13200 USB in progress 0004-00008 UTC 4/5/10

Had it listed in spy numbers section  TNX Token

Since then, have listened to audio files and am positive of ID. It's new to me
am looking into it.

Also, for Morse Code practice I copy some of the CW ID's Coastal Marine
Stations use to "guard" the idle frequency. I knew they transmitted
Weather Fax, RTTY and such but just found out also transmit e-mail,
Internet and so forth. Learn more about that also, one I caught was
KKL on about 8180 kHZ.

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Spy Numbers / Re: Near 13205 kHz Phonetic Letters
« on: April 07, 2010, 0239 UTC »
Toggled between 13205 and 13200 again this afternoon, do I have a passband
or what?

Probably much ado about not too much. I could make out phonetic letters and
an occassional number.

Could be anything from the Red Cross to Naval Commercial Shipping.
Could be Air Force; who else works on Easter Sunday?

Probably belongs in the Utility Section, and is good motivator to upgrade my
RCVR.

TNX

74
Spy Numbers / Near 13205 kHz Phonetic Letters
« on: April 06, 2010, 1828 UTC »
Using Radio Shack DX-396 RCVR stepped, incramental tunining, no SSB

Here in San Luis Obispo, California, I have:

13205 kHZ in progress 2332-2337 UTC 4/4/10 Fair signal
phonetc letters groups of five

13205 kHz in progress  0004-0008 UTC 4/5/10 Good Signal
phonetic letters groups of five

Closer to 13200 kHZ  0000 UTC 4/6/10  Fair signal
Sounded like short, three phonetic letter call-up; no traffic.

Based upon Audio Files, did resemble E10;however, so far have not found
anything too persuasive in Data Bases.

Times are acurate; Give the frequencies plenty of wiggle room. Think
is SSB.

Worthy of note:

V24 6730 kHz 1430-1441 UTC 4/5/10 Unusually good Signal. Strong through
low noise floor. Near AM Broadcast Band Quality.

V24 6730 kHz 1430-1441 UTC 4/6/10 This is the repeat transmission, what a
difference a day makes. Fair to good signal through moderate noise.

Some sort of pre Solar Weather enhancement on 4/5/10 ?

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Here San Luis Obispo, California:

VTN  10255 kHz USB  1559 UTC 4/3/10  fair signal

Sounded like one group sent; could have been more before;or, after.

I tend to think this signal originates in Asia and is intended for recipients
located in Asia. Somewhat similar to V24, the West Coast of USA just
happens to be on the signal path as it extends onward past the intended
recipients.

I also like the shipping theory. Could be private key encryption being
used for commercial shipping.

For the sake of discussion, Asian shipping lines converge on Southern
California. Plenty of logistics and Vietnamese Speakers in the area.

I recall looking at a communications van on Camp Pendleton, at one of
the Vietnamese Imigrant Facilities. I rejoice at their hardworking success.

TNX

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