I grew up deep within the bowels of WNY, and since I was told as a teen by my Dad, "You want CATV in your room, you are paying for it!" So, I built-up my own TV & FM beam setup and was able to normally watch Buffalo, NY VHF TV stations, near CATV quality at 60 miles away, and PBS from the then WPSX-TV CH3, in Clearfield, PA. Rochester and Syracuse were blocked from a close 2,400ft hill close-by my North. FM radio, Buffalo, some Rochester, couple Syracuse, Erie, PA, Elmira / Corning / Ithaca, Binghamton, Toronto, St. Catherines, Hamilton, London, Paris, Welland, Niagara Falls, ON, Canada, and even Johnstown, Tyrone, and a couple Pittsburgh, PA, stations routinely. However, when Tropo happened, I was able to view several Toronto, Hamilton, St, Catherines, London, Syracuse, Cleveland, Erie, Johnstown, Pittsburgh, and Binghamton, TV stations. (BTW, this was early to mid-80's, a.k.a. analog FM & TV days.) When Sporadic "E" Season came, Buffalo's TV2 was blown-over by TV2 Miami, easily. I took my Citizens 3" LCD portable clamshell TV to Olean, NY a few times, to see the new LPTV station W20AB-TV20, there. However, even in the back seat of a 1982 Pontiac Phoenix, I'd clearly seen CH3 News from Omaha, NE, at 7PM EST, but 6PM CST. This, was on the portable TV's whip inside the car! That, lasted for several minutes! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh... The memories, as I wouldn't be able to ever see that today with 8VSB's DTV.