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HF logs - May 2019
« on: June 05, 2019, 1933 UTC »
Here are my HF logs for May 2019

All logs provided for non-commercial use only.


3192.2 USB Norway navy, JWT Stavanger - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 18May19 2121z
4128.1 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA - (TDoA verified) 13May19 2040z
4160.8 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA - (TDoA verified) 13May19 2040z
4397.6 DIG RUS/UKR MIL? - continuous BPSK 1200Bd, no ACF found (LOSwave at Anapa KiwiSDR remote) 10May19 2055z
4550 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS11 sounding 07May19 2044z
4712 USB US MIL net - "Rock Bottom" & someone in plain voice trf, then into "ANDVT" S4197 digivoice tfc 08May19 2032z
4731 USB unid stn, prob Azerbaïdjan Air Defence, from Baku - yl/?? in plain voice one-way tfc (TDoA verified) 18May19 2217z
4851 DIG unid Russian Gov stn - K4MT/NT9P net aka M42b - wakeup sequence - fsk 50/500 sync, ACF=128 (in Baudot decoder= rt~bzl26~~~~ ) 08May19 2005z
5083.7 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA - (TDoA verified) 13May19 2114z
5094 DIG Russian V beacon, with crackles 07May19 2013z
5145.2 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA - (TDoA verified) 13May19 2115z
5348 USB French MIL net, from Vernon TX site - om/ff passing a coded message "Executez loisir lièvre victor 0184 56712311j2030z", with strong feedback, earlier on 6820.0 USB - (TDoA verified) 02May19 2100z
5400 USB unid Polish MIL net - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]DO3 [TIS]AM4 w/ [LQA] + 2x om/pol in plain voice tfc 13May19 2009z
5750 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS1 sounding 07May19 1703z
6240 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS11 sounding 03May19 2049z
6240 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS15 sounding 03May19 2049z
6240 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS2 sounding 03May19 2031z
6240 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS6 sounding 03May19 2049z
6270.3 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA - (TDoA verified) 13May19 2026z
6322.8 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA - (TDoA verified) 13May19 2026z
6626 LSB Chinese Navy net - 30-tone mPSK modem - 4x BPSK preamble (br:60Bd sh:600Hz - 525Hz/1125Hz/1725Hz/2325Hz) + 30x BPSK tones (br:60Bd sh:75Hz - 600Hz to 2775Hz) - pilot tone at 450Hz 08May19 2000z
6785 LSB Chinese Navy net - 30-tone mPSK modem - 4x BPSK preamble (br:60Bd sh:600Hz - 525Hz/1125Hz/1725Hz/2325Hz) + 30x BPSK tones (br:60Bd sh:75Hz - 600Hz to 2775Hz) - pilot tone at 450Hz 08May19 1959z
6820 USB French MIL net, from Vernon TX site - om/ff passing a coded message "Executez loisir lièvre victor 0184 56712311j2030z" and later on 5348.0 USB - (TDoA verified) 02May19 2054z
6985 LSB Chinese Navy net - 30-tone mPSK modem - 4x BPSK preamble (br:60Bd sh:600Hz - 525Hz/1125Hz/1725Hz/2325Hz) + 30x BPSK tones (br:60Bd sh:75Hz - 600Hz to 2775Hz) - pilot tone at 450Hz 02May19 1741z
7262.5 USB Turkish navy, TBO Izmir - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 18May19 2139z
7561.9 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA then on 7610.9 USB - (TDoA verified) 13May19 1954z
7577 LSB Chinese Navy net - 30-tone mPSK modem - 4x BPSK preamble (br:60Bd sh:600Hz - 525Hz/1125Hz/1725Hz/2325Hz) + 30x BPSK tones (br:60Bd sh:75Hz - 600Hz to 2775Hz) - pilot tone at 450Hz 09May19 1706z
7610.9 USB Thales HFXL modems dev, from Elancourt site ? - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]XLB [UUF] 124 97 0 [TIS]XLA - (TDoA verified) 13May19 1954z
7745 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS15 sounding 03May19 2049z
7868.5 USB Turkish navy, TBO Izmir - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 03May19 1409z
7883.5 USB unid Swedish MIL stations - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]RB [TIS]QB w/ [LQA], then on 7907.5 USB 09May19 1929z
7891 USB unid Chinese MIL LFF (LLF variant) net - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]DB5 [TIS]AB1 + proprietary mFSK/xPSK modem bursts 08May19 2109z
7907.5 USB unid Swedish MIL stations - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]RB [TIS]QB w/ [LQA] 09May19 1929z
8013.5 USB unid Polish MIL? net - from Szczecin area - 2x om/pl in plain voice tfc, using their name phonetics (TDoA verified) 10May19 1642z
8074 USB UK DHFCS, St Eval GBR - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/1200L crypto (TDoA verified) 08May19 2051z
8147 H3E/U Russian MFA 6-tone selcall aka X06, Mazielka (435621) 13May19 1958z
8147 USB unid Russian Gov/Intel stn, Moscow area - mFSK-11 125Bd/250Hz, repeating same frame (TDoA verified) 31May19 0835z
8210 USB Turkish "PAQIZE" Cargo vessel (callsign: TCA3421) calling Olympia radio on voice, AIS shows Tunis port as current location - no answer from SVO 07May19 1931z
8303 USB Italian Navy - 2x om/ee "MR" & IDR in plain voice coordination tfc + STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 06May19 2058z
9140 ISB Australian MIL MHFCS, Townsville TX site - ISB streams w/ STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L (w/ crypto text) on LSB and STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L (w/o text) on USB (TDoA verified) 02May19 1712z
9172 LSB unid Chinese user - Chinese 4+4 modem in tfc 02May19 1716z
9220 USB unid net - CCIR 493-4 fsk 100/170 selcalls (offset +1785Hz) "1108" calling "1101", weak signal 02May19 1703z
9252 USB Russian experiments from Moscow, стра́нный- I version - mFSK-16 (br:132Bd sh:175Hz) offset 1850Hz, continuous tfc (1950z sked) sun 05May19 1957z
9341 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1500-1525z cycle - (1525z sked) 05May19 1525z
9342 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1300-1325 cycle - (1325z sked) sun 05May19 1325z
9342 USB Russian MIL, RCV Sevastopol - continuous AT-3004D/AT-3104 (TDoA verified) 02May19 1656z
9351 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1600-1625z cycle - (1625z sked) 05May19 1627z
9356 USB enigma - XPA polytone station at 10Bd "558 1 05921 00075 20125 18789" - (1720z sked) sun 05May19 1727z
9371 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1400-1425 cycle - (1425z sked) sun 05May19 1425z
9376 USB Russian INTEL experiments - стра́нный-B - 8 (n) x 62.5Bd QPSK channels w/ 250Bd BPSK break carriers: 1125Hz 1250Hz 1375Hz 1500Hz 1625Hz 1750Hz 1875Hz 2000Hz + 1750/1500 tone sequence as EOT - 1200-1225 cycle - (1225z sked) 05May19 1225z
9614 USB Russian MFA - SERDOLIK system (34-tone MFSK) 05May19 1219z
9870 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS12 sounding 05May19 1254z
9870 USB unid Jordanian net - prob in setup period - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TWS]ADDRESS16 sounding 05May19 1255z
9912 DIG unid Russian Gov stn - K4MT/NT9P net aka M42b - wakeup sequence - fsk 50/500 sync, ACF=128 (in Baudot decoder= rt~bzl26~~~~ ) 04May19 1318z
9920.7 USB Italian navy, IDR Roma - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 02May19 2032z
10181 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1500-1525z cycle - (1520z sked) 05May19 1520z
10221 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1600-1625z cycle - (1620z sked) 05May19 1619z
10253 USB Russian INTEL experiments - стра́нный-B - 8 (n) x 62.5Bd QPSK channels w/ 250Bd BPSK break carriers: 1125Hz 1250Hz 1375Hz 1500Hz 1625Hz 1750Hz 1875Hz 2000Hz + 1750/1500 tone sequence as EOT - 1200-1225 cycle - (1220z sked) 05May19 1222z
10279 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1400-1425 cycle - (1420z sked) sun 05May19 1420z
10292 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1300-1325 cycle - (1320z sked) sun 05May19 1321z
10352 USB Russian experiments from Moscow, стра́нный- I version - mFSK-16 (br:132Bd sh:175Hz) offset 1850Hz, continuous tfc (1940z sked) sun 05May19 1957z
10438.2 USB Norway navy, JXU Bodo - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 03May19 1402z
10551 USB unid Chinese MIL LFF (LLF variant) net - MIL-STD 188-141C/2G ALE - [TO]DB7 [TIS]AB1 + proprietary mFSK/xPSK modem bursts 16May19 1715z
10638 DIG unid Russian Gov stn - K4MT/NT9P net aka M42b - wakeup sequence - fsk 50/500 sync, ACF=128 (in Baudot decoder= rt~bzl26~~~~ ) 04May19 1318z
10689 USB enigma - XPA polytone station at 10Bd "558 1 05921 00075 20125 18789" - (1710z sked) sun 05May19 1727z
10737 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1300-1325 cycle - (1315z sked) sun 05May19 1322z
10827 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1500-1525z cycle - (1515z sked) 05May19 1515z
10854 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1600-1625z cycle - (1615z sked) 05May19 1615z
10954 USB Russian INTEL experiments - стра́нный-B - 8 (n) x 62.5Bd QPSK channels w/ 250Bd BPSK break carriers: 1125Hz 1250Hz 1375Hz 1500Hz 1625Hz 1750Hz 1875Hz 2000Hz + 1750/1500 tone sequence as EOT - 1200-1225 cycle - (1215z sked) 05May19 1222z
11000 USB Spanish navy, EBA Madrid - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 03May19 1342z
11120 DIG unid Russian stn, Moscow - FSK 50/250, sync, cont, no ACF, T-600? (TDoA verified) 01May19 1021z
11152 USB Russian experiments from Moscow, стра́нный- I version - mFSK-16 (br:132Bd sh:175Hz) offset 1850Hz, continuous tfc (1930z sked) sun 05May19 1957z
11153 H3E/U Russian MFA 6-tone selcall aka X06, Mazielka (465132 Sofia) 08May19 0803z
11174 LSB unid Chinese user - Chinese 4+4 modem in tfc 05May19 1732z
11174 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1400-1425 cycle - (1415z sked) sun 05May19 1415z
11418 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1600-1625z cycle - (1610z sked) 05May19 1609z
11431 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1500-1525z cycle - (1510z sked) 05May19 1513z
11551 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1400-1425 cycle - (1410z sked) sun 05May19 1410z
11554 USB enigma - XPA polytone station at 10Bd "558 1 05921 00075 20125 18789" - (1700z sked) sun 05May19 1727z
11576 USB Russian INTEL experiments - стра́нный-B - 8 (n) x 62.5Bd QPSK channels w/ 250Bd BPSK break carriers: 1125Hz 1250Hz 1375Hz 1500Hz 1625Hz 1750Hz 1875Hz 2000Hz + 1750/1500 tone sequence as EOT - 1200-1225 cycle - (1210z sked) 05May19 1221z
12152 USB Russian experiments from Moscow, стра́нный- I version - mFSK-16 (br:132Bd sh:175Hz) offset 1850Hz, continuous tfc (1920z sked) sun 05May19 1956z
12171 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1600-1625z cycle - (1605z sked) 05May19 1604z
12207 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1400-1425 cycle - (1405z sked) sun 05May19 1405z
12221 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1500-1525z cycle - (1505z sked) 05May19 1513z
13366 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1500-1525z cycle - (1500z sked) 05May19 1513z
13379 USB Russian INTEL experiments, стра́нный-A' (modified version preamble & waveform) - 8x 62.5Bd QPSK channels after reversals 1830Hz/1930Hz - 1600-1625z cycle - (1600z sked) 05May19 1601z
13381 USB Russian Gov experiments - стра́нный-E mode - 5 x mFSK-16 (br:10Bd sh:20Hz) w/ 520ms 250Bd BPSK breaks every 10.16 secs (carrier changes from 2250Hz to 1000Hz) - 1400-1425 cycle - (1400z sked) sun 05May19 1401z
13440 USB Australian MIL MHFCS - ISB streams w/ 600/340 FSK on LSB and STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto on USB 01May19 0848z
13952 USB Russian experiments from Moscow, стра́нный- I version - mFSK-16 (br:132Bd sh:175Hz) offset 1850Hz, continuous tfc (1910z sked) sun 05May19 1956z
14852 USB Russian experiments from Moscow, стра́нный- I version - mFSK-16 (br:132Bd sh:175Hz) offset 1850Hz, continuous tfc (1900z sked) sun 05May19 1956z
14922 USB unid Russian?/Czech? net, 2 stations (Prague & Moscow) using new MFSK-32 (sh:~76Bd br:~95.4Hz) + OFDM-60 (br:40Bd sh:50Hz), offset +1500Hz (both TDoA verified) 30May19 0858z
16053 USB US Navy, NPN NRTF Barrigada, Guam - RATT 50/850, sync, cont, no ACF (offset +2000Hz) (TDoA verified) 01May19 0916z
16121 DIG unid Russian Gov stn - K4MT/NT9P net aka M42b - in message mode - Baudot 50/500/e/Sos, about 100x 5FG, poor signal copy w/ Codar QRM, unid QSX 19May19 0818z
17473 DIG unid Ukrainian MIL? system, from Rivne area - 1200Bd BPSK continuous tfc, with idle breaks (TDoA verified) 30May19 0838z
18555 H7D/U EGY diplo, embassy in Accra - using Codan-16 waveform, unid QSX if exists, Cairo side not heard, later active on 18666.0 USB simplex in Sitor-A (kkvu) 06May19 1558z
18666 H7D/U EGY diplo, embassy in Accra - Sitor-A simplex tfc with Cairo 06May19 1606z
18735 USB Australian MIL MHFCS - ISB streams w/ STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L (w/ crypto text) on LSB and STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L (w/o text) on USB 01May19 0937z
20287 USB UK DHFCS, Akrotiri CYP - faulty STANAG-4285 2400Bd/1200L crypto, with many RF breaks (TDoA verified) 31May19 2029z
22594.7 USB Spanish MIL, EBA Madrid - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 12May19 2057z
22682.7 USB Spanish MIL stn, from Gran Canaria Isl. maybe Las Huesas site ? - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 12May19 1507z


PS: http://81.93.247.141/~linkz/RUS_XP.pdf for the Russian INTEL "experiments" letter ID


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Re: HF logs - May 2019
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2019, 0753 UTC »
Good morning, Linkz.

Here are some words to you logs:

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3192.2 USB Danish navy, JWT Stavanger - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 18May19 2121z

Sorry, not correct: Either we have Norwegian Navy in Stavanger or Danish Navy in Frederikshavn. I bet you meant Norwegeian Navy as they have a transmitter site in the vicinity of Stavanger. Their commcen is in Bodoe. Such as you mentioned in

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10438.2 USB Norway navy, JXU Bodo - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 03May19 1402z

And just one question from my side:

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22682.7 USB Spanish MIL stn, from Gran Canaria Isl. maybe Las Huesas site ? - STANAG-4285 2400Bd/600L crypto (TDoA verified) 12May19 1507z


Where exactely did the TDoA results point to? Do you have any fruther or detailed coordinates?

Kind regards.

Thomas (tiNG)
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Re: HF logs - May 2019
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2019, 2138 UTC »
Hi Thomas

Thanks for the error report,
For some reasons I often get confused between those 2 countries when I log them. The right text is of course "Norway navy, JWT Stavanger"


Concerning 22682.7 now:
First, it was not an easy target, I've tried many times to discriminate TX sites between EBA, CTA, 6WW and even Ascension. Nothing precise and conclusive enough.
That frequency, at this time of year, was copied only by a few nodes from SW EUR + the one from Puerto Rico (no GPS) and some from Brazil.
I got many confusing results and tried to get the most plausible ones and all seem to point to Gran Canaria islands, which was not really a good thing as I never seen any logs for S4285 streams coming from those islands.
Also, I saw EBA was mentionned in some logs for 22682.7 but I've also TDoA'ed 22594.7 (also EBA for some logs) and this one returned accurate enough results to Madrid (using the same nodes)....
There was also slightly differences for the both frequencies when i've checked them simulteanously using the 2 remotes located in South-East Spain. It can be also due to antenna beams who knows..

The most accurate TDoA return was 29.3N 14.7W
as seen here: http://81.93.247.141/~linkz/directTDoA/runs/22682.7/TDoA_22684000_12May2019_195944z.pdf
(Check the whole directory for all my previous attemps)

In Gran Canaria there is a big HF site here: 27°58'55.75"N 15°24'23.37"W https://goo.gl/maps/B57FrbpUs8zLcmeq8
I don't really know who owns it, Spanish MIL or some international SIGINT stuff ?

It's pretty close to Telde but I doubt it's the HFDL aeronautical site, it's way too large.

I suppose the HFDL one is here: 27°57'41.07"N 15°24'21.11"W ? https://goo.gl/maps/N6PaHiRDeUg6a8yz8 but i can't confirm as well as I've not found the real coordinates using online ICAO files yet. do you have them ?

Maybe there are other HF sites on those islands ?, I've not really checked, and can it be from a warship ?
Do the spanish navy really have something there ? I know some other SIGINT sites over there but nothing HF so far

Regards

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Re: HF logs - May 2019
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2019, 0603 UTC »
Good morning, linkz.

Thank you for your answer, which I would like to discuss.

I think that you are not mistaken with the big Telde transmitter station - in fact it really could be a Spanish Navy facility. So far I was not aware that Madrid maintains a remote station there. So thanks for the link to Google Maps.

Even with the geographical address for ARINC Telde (HFDL) you are correct in my opinion. For my documentation I use the information on the blog page UTILITY-PLANET, for example -> http://mt-utility.blogspot.com/2017/03/hfdl-system-table-50-in-effect.html
The position data at the very end of the page ("Ground Station ID 17 CANARIAS - SPAIN") point a little too far to the east, so almost to the airport area itself. But here it is as often with position information: the inaccuracy is in the detail.

In my opinion a permanent STANAG4285 signal does not come from a ship. Most of these signals are so-called "broadcasts", in the jargon also Shore-to-Ship traffic. Running over are - encrypted - weather reports, situation pictures, orders and further military correspondence.

But I do not have any more information.
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Re: HF logs - May 2019
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 1815 UTC »
Hi !

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I suppose the HFDL one is here: 27°57'41.07"N 15°24'21.11"W ? https://goo.gl/maps/N6PaHiRDeUg6a8yz8 but i can't confirm as well as I've not found the real coordinates using online ICAO files yet. do you have them ?
According to Googlemaps the bus station in front of the site is called "Alerta y Control".
So this might be the tx site of Spanish AF GRUALERCON - Grupo de Alerta y Control (callsign "Papayo"). But maybe also used for Civil Operations.

In this article http://www.tecnologiaeinnovacion.defensa.gob.es/Lists/Publicaciones/Attachments/194/boletin-de-observacion-tecnologica-n%C2%BA-44.pdf STANAG transmission from Almatriche, GC are mentioned.
There is indeed a pixeled area in Almatriche
https://www.google.at/maps/@28.0869842,-15.4574779,75m/data=!3m1!1e3

It´s difficult to find a Streetview spot to watch on the top of this hill as all streets near the area are on a lower level, but it looks like that there are antennas:
https://www.google.at/maps/@28.0851903,-15.4607138,3a,15y,69.9h,95.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEYT_iEQ8JyKbMTP8D2gjMA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

73,
Patrick

Rx: AR7030 / Perseus
Ant: MK-1
Location: Austria

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Re: HF logs - May 2019
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2019, 1457 UTC »
Hey

Great find of the Almatriche site, it's a better candidate for a TX site indeed, i see 2 huge LPDA in there
Maybe the other one (Las Huesas) is the associated RX site !?

And ok for the "Grupo de Alerta y Control" HF site, it's also a good guess

Unfortunatly, for both, there is not good enough aerial view rez to be 100% sure about where the microwave dishes at pointing to.

thx for your searches & comments

&linkz
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