NOAA WXRadio WBCQ? Pirate? 9330 AM 2219 UTC 2 Sept 2019

[Davep]

Full copy here at 1351   S2 

1421 Id as KIH26 Daytona/ Bumcombe Hill TX 162.400 Mhz  out of Melbourne offoce

[digitalmod]

  Dude, if  U are using a SDR that could be a " birdie" also called a spur. I have that issue with my SDR and it gets worse at night when signals are strong.

[Big Badfish Al]

Found this video on youtube for the people who think it just and sdr issue for it is not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vpgzx2omYc

[TheRelayStation]

it may be a "different" type of transmitter located and being used at WBCQ but its not the usual WBCQ why ?
WBCQ is generally a few hundred hertz off frequency on all of the frequencies they are assigned (except when using their new "powerhouse" transmitter), enough that you can hear the heterodyne quite well (its usually between 100Hz to 300Hz and drifts slowly with temperature changes).
whatever is at 9.330Mhz now, is +40Hz off frequency and slowly drifting +/- 5Hz.
they use this type of older gear to "generate" the RF carrier for their high power RF/modulation transmitter in addition to using the same gear itself sometimes directly connected to their high gain antenna.
this explains why you may often hear them weak and "under-modulated" at times.

[ChrisSmolinski]

it may be a "different" type of transmitter located and being used at WBCQ but its not the usual WBCQ why ?
WBCQ is generally a few hundred hertz off frequency on all of the frequencies they are assigned (except when using their new "powerhouse" transmitter), enough that you can hear the heterodyne quite well (its usually between 100Hz to 300Hz and drifts slowly with temperature changes).
whatever is at 9.330Mhz now, is +40Hz off frequency and slowly drifting +/- 5Hz.
they use this type of older gear to "generate" the RF carrier for their high power RF/modulation transmitter in addition to using the same gear itself sometimes directly connected to their high gain antenna.
this explains why you may often hear them weak and "under-modulated" at times.

In many ways, WBCQ operates like a station with a Part 5 Experimental License 

Right now I have a very good SIO 444 signal on 9330.054 per my GPS locked netSDR.

I've moved the topic.

[Edgar Souse]

Chris, sorry if I got this one wrong. I was trying to decide if it was WBCQ but couldn't figure it out either way.

[Big Badfish Al]

Reply for Allan of WBCQ

[Andrew Yoder]

Heard here, too, with a fair signal. I've never heard anyone relay NOAA for days on end 

[Edgar Souse]

Al - Thanks for confirming this.

[KaySeeks]

Dude, if  U are using a SDR that could be a " birdie" also called a spur. I have that issue with my SDR and it gets worse at night when signals are strong.

Hey Dude,

Let me present an opposing view:

1) All these different people located across a wide area, all using different receivers (different manufacturers thus different designs) are hearing it. That says that it is very unlikely to be a spur generated in a receiver. These sorts of spurs tend to be particular to a certain make and model of receiver and can be location specific - it all depends upon the input IP3 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-order_intercept_point) of the receiver circuit and the input level at the receiver input, thus a function of the the circuit, antenna, location, propagation, etc. A Sony ICF-xxxx will have a different input IP3 than a Drake, etc. and then the spurs will show up in a different place. Pretty unlikely that everybody will have the same type and level of spur.

2) It's unnecessary since WBCQ has admitted to doing it at this point, but someone could also do TDoA on the Kiwi network and if the algorithm resolves to a location, it's also very unlikely to be a spur in the Kiwi SDR.

[Josh]

S0 2212z ongoing wx forecast.

[skeezix]

4-Sep-2019 GMT 0002:  Barely hear it here and buried in the noise, but can tell its NOAA weather radio. 




_{Yaesu FT-847 with Bonito Boni-Whip antenna}

[Treehouse SWL]

I can heard bits and pieces of the weather forecast when using USB mode as of 0024 UTC. Otherwise, too much noise to hear. Yesterday, I couldn't hear anything on 9330 at all.

[Edgar Souse]

SIO 444 here. It dropped out totally yesterday. Looking at the waterfall on my 7300 they are off frequency but a few hz as someone else mentioned. Definitely not a birdie. Several people reported hearing it on a FB group yesterday.

[Pigmeat]

Timtron once told me in a phone conversation what they used as a back-up on 9330. If what he said is correct, it was old enough to have been collecting Social Security then.