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New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« on: December 10, 2020, 1607 UTC »
Second day I've seen this one on the KFS Kiwi SDRs. Suspect this dasher is solar powered as I saw it suddenly start transmitting about 5 minutes ago with a bit of instability before settling down.

4097.22  Dasher 2 sec on 2 sec off
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2020, 1821 UTC »
I would assume that is this one (  https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,74397.msg247748.html#msg247748  ).  I have seen that dasher at night though, so I do not think it is solar powered.

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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2020, 1839 UTC »
I would assume that is this one (  https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,74397.msg247748.html#msg247748  ).  I have seen that dasher at night though, so I do not think it is solar powered.

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Maybe it is malfunctioning? I was literally watching a swath of spectrum on KFS when the signal popped up full strength and the signal drifted down in frequency over a few dashes before settling down.
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2020, 0124 UTC »
Here is the video I did of that one a couple weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvp8x96CkdU

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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2020, 2319 UTC »
Just had light copy on the Sedona Kiwi. @  23:15
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2020, 1529 UTC »
I had completely forgotten about the Chat Thread for the updates to the master beacon list. The following message explains why the dasher popped up.

What happened to the 'Inyo Whooper' (a daytimer) was that its solar-panel partially-failed and was putting out only 4 volts intermittently.  The antenna was trashed by winds and nibblers after 10 years - kinda flimsy wire anyway - never thought it would last so long..., so it kinda was NG and so the thing had to go home, alledgedly... me thinks... it can be put on from its home... someplace ... still 4097.2 but i believe its keying cap was changed a tad...

Not so much a new or malfunctioning beacon but it's the old Inyo Whooper being played with by Mcgreevey
« Last Edit: December 14, 2020, 1531 UTC by Teotwaki »
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2020, 0032 UTC »
Sorry, I am easily confused.  Is the 4097.2 the old Inyo Whooper?  Or rather do you mean the new DW is the old Whooper?

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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2020, 0137 UTC »
Sorry, I am easily confused.  Is the 4097.2 the old Inyo Whooper?  Or rather do you mean the new DW is the old Whooper?

T!

LOL, you got a couple of beacon threads intertwined so an A+ for inventiveness!   ;D

So from the beacon list chat thread here:   https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,68701.msg250477.html#new

I quoted McGreevy a.k.a. "Mojave Beaconeer" saying that he took the old 4097.2 KHz Inyo Whooper down because it was in poor condition. Then he changed some capacitor that was bad and (hint-hint-hint he's saying) he might be putting it back on the air on the same frequency of 4097.2 (hint-hint-hint he's saying).

Apparently the "whoop" sound of it was not a design feature but instead a cheap part failed. Quote:

"Amazingly it was a crappy old 70s radio-shack kit-cannibilized cap 10 uF in the RC keying ckt that failed!! Just a malfunctioning cap!  It led to this phenomenon! "

The Desert Whooper is on a different frequency and DW definitely has the appearance of the whoop being designed in as well as having a CW ID and telemetry.

Did that work? Many times I think I am being clear but find out I failed, sigh.

PS: Maybe it's not the old Inyo Whooper because McGreevy/Mojave Beaconeer claimed he was quitting it all in this message:

https://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,74278.0.html
« Last Edit: December 15, 2020, 0140 UTC by Teotwaki »
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2020, 2320 UTC »
Sounding strong on the omni Kiwi tonight. Nice signal (23:20 Z)
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2021, 1552 UTC »
very strong on the SDR. Freq at 4097.27
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2021, 0402 UTC »
Name suggestions:

Not The Whooper!

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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2021, 1605 UTC »
I am thinking the name should probably be able to tie the 4097.2 and the 7997.2 together if it turns out they are actually related.  If I ever get them simultaneously at a good enough signal strength I will try to do a video that shows the relationship / sync of the two.  I am sure they are in sync.  Unfortunately I typically see only one at a time, and when I do see both either one or both are so weak that it does not make for a good video.

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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2021, 1636 UTC »
I am thinking the name should probably be able to tie the 4097.2 and the 7997.2 together if it turns out they are actually related.

Excellent idea. Maybe we could use SDR channels/receivers at another location such as Half Moon Bay? If both signals are not consistent at your receive site we could try other sites to correlate the signals.
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2021, 0343 UTC »
Very good signal on the KFS Kiwi SE SDR
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Re: New Dasher 4097.22 KHz ?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2021, 0119 UTC »
4097.2 dasher just faded in weakly as I was watching the bandpass with 4094 and Windy. No sign of it on 7999.2 at this point but I have seen it there off and on. 01:18 UTC 10 JAN 2021
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