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Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« on: December 05, 2012, 1815 UTC »
Note! please see http://www.hfunderpants.com/?p=1155 for a blog post with the most up to date information.

6225
6550
6750
7700
8000
8275
8975
9050
9225
10050
10450
10575
10900
11025
11150
11225
11300
12450
13100
13250
13325
13875
14400
15100
15400
15625
16000
16550
16725
17475
17650
17950
17975
18050
18100
18200
18450
18625
19300
19650
20100
20175
20250
22050
24050

The pulses are 130 msec in length and 6 seconds apart.  

Multiple (delayed) transmissions are observed on some frequencies, with different signal strengths, suggesting multiple transmitter sites.

« Last Edit: December 06, 2012, 1547 UTC by ChrisSmolinski »
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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 1825 UTC »
I'm listening to the one on 18050 atm. Not strong but perfectly copyable on the west coast of Canada.

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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 1858 UTC »
I have all of them here in Kentucky except:

8275 and 12025 (other QRM)

18050, 22050 and 24050 (may mean I am in the skip zone from the transmitter on these frequencies).

Given how strong the 6 and 7 MHz signals are here in the daytime, I'd say eastern North America.

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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 1922 UTC »
Chris posted some more frequencies. I have all of them up to 17 MHz. I must be in the skip zone for the ones on higher frequencies.

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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 0136 UTC »
on the dashers, I thought I was hearing something local as these two were strong for awhile.
15070.00     dasher  weak now at 0134z 12/06/12
15558.50     dasher  fairly strong at 0134z

have been hearing them for a couple of days when I have time to listen which is not
very often these days.

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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 1445 UTC »
It's 1445z 6 Dec and... they're back on the air.

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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 1641 UTC »
I managed to receive some of this between 1534 and 1610 today (6 Dec 2012) on the following freqs:

9.225 (heard over/under somebody else's RYRY 50/200 FSK stream)
10.050
10.575
11.025
11.150
11.225
13.250
13.325

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« Last Edit: December 06, 2012, 1703 UTC by jacklambo »

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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 1810 UTC »
I had no idea there were so many dasher/ditter beacons out there.  Looking at the freqs I have doubts that they are pirates - the transmissions are all over the place from 6 - 24 mhz, and on nice "round" freqs ending in 0 or 5 khz.

"Official" propagation beacons, perhaps?  ...maybe our taxpayer money paid for beacons?!?  COOL!
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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 1835 UTC »
This particular set seems to be one network, presumably run by a .gov agency. It appears to have shut down today around 1600z. We'll have to see when/if it returns.
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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 1932 UTC »
This is not the first time we have seen similar ditters/dashers on multiple frequencies.  Back in April of this year there was several days of similar ditters, but with shorter pulses (about half the length) and shorter pauses between pulses (3 seconds).  The relationship of half the pulse width and half the pause is interesting to me and might tie the “then” and “now” signals together.

Video of one frequency here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBtMxRIcyFg

I think at that time it was on 25+ frequencies at the same time.  I am at work right now but will look in the log after I get home and see if any of the freqs are the same as this set.

In the discussion then about that specific signal the possibility of multiple transmit sites was also brought up.  There was good argument to support multiple sites, but the phenomena could also be explained by a single site and multipath.  The multipath argument was less strong because of the delay between the pulses, the longer of the two paths would have had to be over 1500 km longer (on average, there was some variation if I remember right) than the short path, not impossible at all but also not likely if the source is on the same continent as the listener.  The variation in timing on the second pulse was one of the arguments for multipath.

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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 0113 UTC »
I just happened to stumble on one of these last night (Dec. 6 ~0400Z) while playing with my fairly new Softrock Ensemble II SDR receiver. It was on 4575 kHz. It may be a part of this network of ditters, too. I don't hear it right now (Dec 7 ~ 0100Z). I'll listan again later.
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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 1535 UTC »
a few beeps heard on 9225 at 1532z 7Dec than gone

update: back at 1539z

Heard at this hour (1500z)in parallel on freqs 9050 thru 11300 except 10450kHz
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 1555 UTC by sat_dxer »
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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 1559 UTC »
I noticed them re-appearing at the same time. They came back on and off a few times during the few minutes before 1539z, perhaps they were bringing the network up?

I've found several more frequencies, and updated the list at http://www.hfunderpants.com/?p=1155
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Re: Dashers / Ditters 5 December
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 1605 UTC »
Heard at this hour (1600z) in parallel on freqs 8275 thru 11300 except 10450 & 10900kHz


update: Heard on 8825, nothing on 8775 nor 8900

1625z in parallel on freqs 13250 thru 15100
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 1628 UTC by sat_dxer »
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