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So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« on: August 05, 2018, 1311 UTC »
Looks like it is the high frequency traders from Chicago. Don't take this as the exact location, TDoA is not that accurate. But certainly in the right area.

Although a good fit for WH2XWU which is at Wanatah (LA PORTE), IN: 41-27-24;  86-51-37  https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=165013&x=

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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2018, 1318 UTC »
Another run put it in Lake Michigan. Maybe they are using a converted German U Boat.

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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2018, 1321 UTC »
And another run...  these were all taken a few minutes apart. Are you folks less afraid of TDoA now?

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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2018, 1428 UTC »
Quote from: ChrisSmolinski on August 05, 2018, 1321 UTC
And another run...  these were all taken a few minutes apart. Are you folks less afraid of TDoA now?



That one struck close to home...
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2018, 1445 UTC »
Quote from: jFarley on August 05, 2018, 1428 UTC
That one struck close to home...

I've heard other frequencies have been located to the NYC area. This one is particularly annoying for us 43 meter enthusiasts. I did notice the 6942 Link-11 buried under it earlier. Maybe they'll upset Uncle Sam and be asked to move.
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2018, 1459 UTC »
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2018, 1624 UTC »
Would running those comms when the markets aren't open make any sense?
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2018, 1649 UTC »
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Would running those comms when the markets aren't open make any sense?

Perhaps they are testing?

Another run, same general area, but not exactly the same location:

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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2018, 1654 UTC »
Perhaps they are.

What kind of license would the FCC grant for this? Is there anything that can be looked up at the ULS database?
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2018, 1659 UTC »
Quote from: MDK2 on August 05, 2018, 1654 UTC
Perhaps they are.

What kind of license would the FCC grant for this? Is there anything that can be looked up at the ULS database?

They have a Part 5 license, here is an example of one: https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=165013&x=

You can search Part 5 licenses here: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/GenericSearch.cfm

You may recall that guy who was transmitting SSTV on 6951? He had a Part 5 license. Some have speculated that an enterprising person might be able to get one for 43 meters for testing some sort of non profit broadcasting to the public system, maybe with an emphasis on public safety?
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2018, 1746 UTC »
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2018, 1840 UTC »
Quote from: ChrisSmolinski on August 05, 2018, 1318 UTC
Another run put it in Lake Michigan. Maybe they are using a converted German U Boat.

Would be a good place for them.
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2018, 1906 UTC »
The U505 was on display at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry.  Wonder if it's still there?
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2018, 1917 UTC »
Quote from: MDK2 on August 05, 2018, 1624 UTC
Would running those comms when the markets aren't open make any sense?

They're still testing far as I know, and when they go live I kinda expect them to bitstream for security, and keeping the stream going will make things tougher on anyone trying to analyse the traffic.

Also, I can't see USN letting anyone interfere with their hf ops, and they have the power to find them and bend them to their will. One or the other will move.
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Re: So you were wondering about that annoying UTE 6920-6950 kHz...
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2018, 1918 UTC »
Quote from: jFarley on August 05, 2018, 1906 UTC
The U505 was on display at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry.  Wonder if it's still there?

They put it inside a display case the size of a building. Great exhibition if you're into ww2 stuff/subs.
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