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Author Topic: UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz  (Read 5336 times)

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UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« on: September 18, 2008, 0340 UTC »
Update: In a 9/18/08 reply to my e-mail inquiry to HAARP, they state this was not HAARP testing and that they do not use this frequency range due to proximity to 40m amateur band. -- Lex

6920 USB/6922 LSB, 9/18/08, 0130-0200 UTC (9/17/08, 8:30-9:00 p.m. Central, U.S.), continuous distorted audio with rushing sound and comb filter-type effect.  Similar to previously recorded audio clips attributed to HAARP tests.  (Note: WYFR was not active on 6915 AM at this time.)

5-minute mp3, with tuning around between 6920-6922, USB, LSB and AM modes to center frequency: http://www.mediafire.com/?erzzt2jd0t3

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« Last Edit: September 18, 2008, 1625 UTC by Lex »
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Re: UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 2308 UTC »
...but hey, at least the MIB's haven't show up yet.

Uh...Right ?

Lex, Buddy, you still there?

Oh Dear...

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Re: UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2008, 0844 UTC »
Heard this rubbish most of the night here too near Vancouver, BC :(

I wonder how long is it going to go on?

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Re: UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 0826 UTC »
11/18/09
0825 UTC: Same unid "comb filter" type sounds again, seems to be centered around 6931.2 kHz where there's also been a persistent weak carrier for several weeks.
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Re: UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 2007 UTC »
HEY LEX  you can get the same effect with a  very fast reverb running into a flanger   makes for a extremely effective jammer   on the first half of your recording  it sounds like there may be a bit of music in there at times     i have heard a guy on 11 meters make the same kind of noise for hours  using a magnum delta force radio they have a hell of a echo board in them   with a few toys and delta force cb equiped with a transverter   a man could create all kinds of  unids in this freq range    anything is possble ya never know for sure
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Re: UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 0412 UTC »

Hallo all

This is HAARP signal on two Frequency (from more HAARP Frequency):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79OG433JKb4 

...and perhaps SURA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNECiZ1B9RU 

...?...
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Hmmm ... why do you say HAARP? Sounds like a data sequence preceded by a synchronization frame, and, it sounds like one data sequence is answered by another one from somewhere else ... this sounds like data comms, not necessarily an experiment conducted by the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program ... did you DF it to the vicinity of the HAARP installation in Alaska?

I should add, you are familiar with how the beam-forming works at the HAARP facility? They can form a beam like +-30 degrees or so from vertical, as they basically have a planar (flat) X x Y array or crossed dipoles on the ground and _not_ a dipole array facing the horizon (like the old Russian Woodpecker/Duga-3 array) ...

Duga-3 - http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=duga-3&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 - Dipole array facing horizon

Best series of photos I have found on Duga-3 - http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2008/04/28/duga-the-steel-giant-near-chernobyl/

HAARP Transmitter/PA stage - http://web.archive.org/web/20070428094446/http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/trans.html

Continental Electronics Corporation D616G "HAARP" transmitter datasheet - http://www.contelec.com/pdf%5CHAARP_data_sheet.pdf

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European HAARP - The European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association (EISCAT) ionospheric heating facility:
EISCAT's ionospheric Heating facility - http://www.eiscat.se/about/info/heating/


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UNID: claimed to be HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 1952 UTC »
Thanks for your comment and good links. I to consider.
This is better about HAARP :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBcR-wPyWk4   

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Again, have to ask by what means are you sure? Did you e-mail the alaska.edu address and inquire if they were operational then? Did you or some one you trust drive by the site and notice the diesel generators in the power building were running (the AC power lines running to the facility only power the administrative buildings and not the actual operational HAARP equipment; exciters, transmitters et al)

Assertions, w/o proof, sans evidence corroborating or supporting the assertion can be quite specious in nature ...

Suggest maybe use of this technique to at least narrow down the source as to hemisphere, continent, and maybe province or state in the future: http://www.hfunderground.com/board/index.php/topic,1476.msg7003.html#msg7003

Also note, as posted in the original, opening post by Lex in this thread; if these are emissions in the 6920 kHz area they not due to HAARP:

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Update: In a 9/18/08 reply to my e-mail inquiry to HAARP, they state this was not HAARP testing and that they do not use this frequency range due to proximity to 40m amateur band. -- Lex


6920 USB ... 9/18/08 ...

My suggestion would be to contact them and inquire if they were operational for the time you observed these signals ...

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Re: UNID, possibly HAARP 6920-6922 kHz
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 2038 UTC »
Well gee, SW-J...

Next you'll be telling us that HAARP isn't responsible for global warming, UFO sightings, whale beachings, cattle mutilations, the Taos Hum, ghost hauntings, alien abductions, learning disabilities, or cancer!  ;)



EDIT to add:  Oh yeah - the lack of sunspots, too.  Heard that one the other day on the repeater; supposedly, the HAARP emissions are leaving the ionosphere via the magnetic pole, looping back around to the sun's pole, and somehow interfering with the processes that create sunspots.  I've got to give them points for creativity on that one.
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HAARP 'cargo cult science' of 21st Century
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2010, 2228 UTC »
Well gee, SW-J...

Next you'll be telling us that HAARP isn't responsible for global warming, UFO sightings, whale beachings, cattle mutilations, the Taos Hum, ghost hauntings, alien abductions, learning disabilities, or cancer!  ;)



EDIT to add:  Oh yeah - the lack of sunspots, too.  Heard that one the other day on the repeater; supposedly, the HAARP emissions are leaving the ionosphere via the magnetic pole, looping back around to the sun's pole, and somehow interfering with the processes that create sunspots.  I've got to give them points for creativity on that one.

I think I would rather ask what the first-order linking effects were ... IOW, give me a clue how A affects B and affects C (science) ... otherwise it's back to magic potions, chants and working with voodoo dolls (non-science, pre-normal-science e.g. alchemy, turning lead into gold; that kind of thing).

I think in actuality, it's the non-science person's response (book authors, who want to make money) to the unknown (they have a bogey man they can erect and fight; not too far from a straw-man argument. That late-night nutball Art Bell deserves some point out here), where they don't even have a basic grasp of the factors involved (electro-magnetics as classically taught, the physics involved in meteorology), the parameters involved (the physical orientation of the X-Y planar HAARP transmitting array for instance- and it is not capable of receive even!, the fact it points STRAIGHT UP and can only be steered +-30 degrees from zenith), and the end results is story-telling the size of Mark Twain as set in the 21st century ...

Wouldn't you say that a six-diesel engine powered device situated in Alaska that is capable of controlling our universe is a little far-fetched? And to think, anybody parked 'down the road' with just a SW receiver could tell when they where on the air (sidelobes exist on any antenna, so something at the power level HAARP operates at would be easily noticed, yet some SWL in what I think is a former 'eastern block' country says he has HAARP 'dead-to-rights' beaming into Europe w/nothing other than 'his word' ... sound anything remotely like a Nigerian million-dollar con job?)

  Side note, "Prime Power Generation" - http://web.archive.org/web/20070404123251/www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/power.html

Used to be the Bilderbergers and the Trilateral Commission were the only ones that wielded that kind of 'pow-wah' ...

Added - Here's what come to mind:

  SUPERSTITION -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE - By Stevie Wonder


Added - HAARP 'Art'; a product of synthesis and interpretation in the vein of 'Cargo Cult Science' (See refs 1-Wiki and 2-address by famous physicist Richard Feynman):


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSETI-Fb24U


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Ref 1 - Cargo Cult Science is based on a concept in anthropology, the cargo cult, which describes how some pre-scientific cultures interpreted technologically advanced visitors (e.g. flying airplanes filled with supplies to S. Pacific island outposts) as religious or supernatural figures who brought boons of cargo and food.

Later, in an effort to call for a second visit the natives would develop and engage in complex religious rituals, mirroring the previously observed behavior of the visitors manipulating their machines (by building airports with thatched runways and control towers and RADAR installations made of bamboo) but without understanding the true nature of those tasks (the science, the technology), with the cargo cultists creating mock airports that failed to produce airplanes ...


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o Icom IC-756ProII, ProIII, Alinco DX-70, Kenwood TS-680s
o WinRadio G303e, Degen/Kaito 1103/DE1103, Stoddart NM-25
o 1/2 wave 80m Dipole used with several tuners
o Tuned loops from 2' thru 16' diam. capable of 160m thru 10m