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Offline Wooden_shoe_pirate

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Pirating in the Netherlands
« on: June 19, 2019, 0939 UTC »
Hi guys.

I've noticed that FM pirating in the Netherlands ( and UK ) is totally different than anywhere else in the world.
Therefore i thought it might be interresting to give you guys a inside view of how things work over here.

So here we go:

We have 3 sorts of pirates:

- Persons that transmit from their homes. Typically with 1 ~2 dipoles, 10 - 30 meters high antennamast, 10W - 2Kw transmitter
- Groups of people that all put money in the piggybank. They buy an old towercrane 60 - 120 meters high, 4 ~8 Dipoles , 5 - 10 -15 -20Kw transmitter and an PC with 3G dongle and prepaid card as STL
- Person / group of people that put their transmitter on a high Building, Cell site or High Voltage pylon. Typically with 1 ~2 dipoles, 150W - 2Kw transmitter and a PC with 3G dongle











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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 1150 UTC »
The one with the pirate FM antenna on top of a high-tension power transmission pylon is my favorite.  How are the owners of the cellular towers not noticing folks installing additional equipment and antennas on their sites? 

Using 3G connections for a STL?  Interesting. 
U.S. East Coast, various HF/VHF/UHF radios/scanners/receivers

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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2019, 1308 UTC »
They usually pick cell sites outside of the city, therefore the risk of beeing caught on-site is minimal.

Regarding the STL:

Don't know how things work outside europe, but in NL you can buy an prepaid card with cash, without providing any personal information.
For another 10 euros you get 1 or 2 GB traffic. Get cheap core 2 duo PC, plugin the dongle, run breakaway or stereotool, use an icecast or shoutcast server outside of your country ( 32-64K AAC+)
Voillá you're virtually untracable

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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2019, 1337 UTC »
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2019, 1404 UTC »
Some years ago, when the "professionals" were using 10Ghz links ( cheap Gunnplexers - AM modulated and a so-called SATCAN tuner module, still in use by many UK pirates  ) a national television station was invited by "Danceradio992" - pioneers in unmanned transmitter sites -

You can find this nice interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frH6-VXY9KY ( Don't forget to enable the subtitles, unless you're speaking Dutch ofcourse :)
« Last Edit: June 19, 2019, 1413 UTC by Wooden_shoe_pirate »

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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2019, 2024 UTC »
I think many of the FM pirates here use 3/4g to link. You can even use it to turn the TX on and off remotely (I think).
I have one of those 10 GHz links here. Never used it though since I got it over 10 years ago.

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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2019, 2048 UTC »
Thanks for sharing!

You can find this nice interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frH6-VXY9KY ( Don't forget to enable the subtitles, unless you're speaking Dutch ofcourse :)

Dance Radio was heard in Ukraine once during Es propagation. I have a good audio recording with clear ID.
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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2019, 2048 UTC »
Correct Brian,

On the receiving side, an ( forgot the type ) IC is used with 19kHz detector. When MPX is sent over the link- carrying the 19kHz pilot tone - the detector can switch a relay

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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2019, 2050 UTC »
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Dance Radio was heard in Ukraine once during Es propagation. I have a good audio recording with clear ID.

Nice catch!

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Re: Pirating in the Netherlands
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2019, 1423 UTC »
Leuk item om te lezen!

Weer eens wat anders!

Groet

André
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