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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2020, 1701 UTC »
Other than because they're an international leftist organization?  8)
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2020, 1802 UTC »
Other than because they're an international leftist organization?  8)

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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 0316 UTC »
And, apparently raising farm animals adds to the so-called 'Greenhouse Gases' when they fart. Last year, didn't you hear about the dangers of cow farts?
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 1208 UTC »
And, apparently raising farm animals adds to the so-called 'Greenhouse Gases' when they fart. Last year, didn't you hear about the dangers of cow farts?

Interesting factoid, the current population of cattle in the US is almost exactly the same as the historic Bison population.
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 1419 UTC »
Based on what we have witnessed lately,  the "experts" aren't.
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2020, 1511 UTC »
Based on what we have witnessed lately,  the "experts" aren't.

There's certainly many health benefits to exercise, but prior to the 70s, few routinely exercised in an effort to lose weight. In fact there's a saying "You can't outrun a bad diet".

Check out photos and films from turn of the century to the 50s and 60s, most of the population was thin. Or what we would call thin today, they were of normal weight. And what today passes for normal was called fat back then. What changed in the 1970s? The misguided attempt to reduce heart disease by telling people to cut their fat intake and eat more carbohydrates (and therefore sugar, both directly and in the form of carbs that your body converts into sugar). The same photos and films will show one of the major causes of the increase in heart disease back then - smoking. We've fortunately reduced smoking rates, but unfortunately replaced it with high sugar intake, which also leads to heart disease.

One of my other interests is genealogy. I found WWI and WWII draft cards for my grandfathers, as well as some great grandfathers, uncles, etc who were the same height at me (5'8"). Interestingly enough most of them weighed 135 pounds. Both in their 30s and in their 50s. This gave me a goal weight. I'm not quite there yet, about 138 pounds now.

You cannot use current height weight tables, as they have been adjusted to reflect what the (generally overweight) population currently weighs.

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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2020, 1604 UTC »
Based on what we have witnessed lately,  the "experts" aren't.

There's certainly many health benefits to exercise, but prior to the 70s, few routinely exercised in an effort to lose weight. In fact there's a saying "You can't outrun a bad diet".

Check out photos and films from turn of the century to the 50s and 60s, most of the population was thin. Or what we would call thin today, they were of normal weight. And what today passes for normal was called fat back then. What changed in the 1970s? The misguided attempt to reduce heart disease by telling people to cut their fat intake and eat more carbohydrates (and therefore sugar, both directly and in the form of carbs that your body converts into sugar). The same photos and films will show one of the major causes of the increase in heart disease back then - smoking. We've fortunately reduced smoking rates, but unfortunately replaced it with high sugar intake, which also leads to heart disease.

One of my other interests is genealogy. I found WWI and WWII draft cards for my grandfathers, as well as some great grandfathers, uncles, etc who were the same height at me (5'8"). Interestingly enough most of them weighed 135 pounds. Both in their 30s and in their 50s. This gave me a goal weight. I'm not quite there yet, about 138 pounds now.

You cannot use current height weight tables, as they have been adjusted to reflect what the (generally overweight) population currently weighs.

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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 1635 UTC »
Have always worked in a trade that required physical activity and always got lots of exercise outside of work.
However, over the years my weight crept up to 175 lbs.  Last year started cutting back on the carbs and increased my intake of meat.
My weight has dropped to 155 lbs., almost back to my boot camp weight of 150 lbs. 
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2020, 1938 UTC »
Wait, did someone say "Go-Gos"?

Based on what we have witnessed lately,  the "experts" aren't.

There's certainly many health benefits to exercise, but prior to the 70s, few routinely exercised in an effort to lose weight. In fact there's a saying "You can't outrun a bad diet".

Check out photos and films from turn of the century to the 50s and 60s, most of the population was thin. Or what we would call thin today, they were of normal weight. And what today passes for normal was called fat back then. What changed in the 1970s? The misguided attempt to reduce heart disease by telling people to cut their fat intake and eat more carbohydrates (and therefore sugar, both directly and in the form of carbs that your body converts into sugar). The same photos and films will show one of the major causes of the increase in heart disease back then - smoking. We've fortunately reduced smoking rates, but unfortunately replaced it with high sugar intake, which also leads to heart disease.

One of my other interests is genealogy. I found WWI and WWII draft cards for my grandfathers, as well as some great grandfathers, uncles, etc who were the same height at me (5'8"). Interestingly enough most of them weighed 135 pounds. Both in their 30s and in their 50s. This gave me a goal weight. I'm not quite there yet, about 138 pounds now.

You cannot use current height weight tables, as they have been adjusted to reflect what the (generally overweight) population currently weighs.

Was recently on the internet viewing some old (60s) music performances with go-go girls gyrating in the background.
One of the comments posted below said "haven't seen women with figures like that in over four decades".

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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2020, 1327 UTC »

I’ve noticed the same difference between people in films from the early 20th century and today.  I agree that all of those factors played a role.  The other thing (as you mentioned) was that almost everyone smoked.  Smoking depresses the appetite...which also factors into the equation.

I think that it isn’t any one thing but a combination of increased sedentariness, more carbs, and smoking cessation that has resulted in the obesity problem.  A perfect storm.
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2020, 1548 UTC »
So where does one get the realistic BMI table?

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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2020, 0838 UTC »
What changed in the 1970s? The misguided attempt to reduce heart disease by telling people to cut their fat intake and eat more carbohydrates (and therefore sugar, both directly and in the form of carbs that your body converts into sugar). The same photos and films will show one of the major causes of the increase in heart disease back then - smoking. We've fortunately reduced smoking rates, but unfortunately replaced it with high sugar intake, which also leads to heart disease.

You're not wrong about the old photos, the lower BMIs, and smoking.

I would suggest, however, to not neglect the effects of a much more passive lifestyle, the fewer and fewer % of the population involved in labour-intensive industries like agriculture as the late 19th century moved into the early half of the century. In North America anyway, significantly larger food portion sizes that have become the norm and significantly more time is spent in motor vehicles on a daily basis as well.
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2020, 1913 UTC »
Because the world health organization is funded by eugenicists. It has nothing to do with health and all to do with money and power. I know this forum is not for debates, so I'll just leave it here and not follow up.
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Re: Why is the World Health Organisation Anti-Meat?
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2020, 1821 UTC »
I think it's basically that there's just not enough meat around to feed everyone.