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Offline Misti-Radio

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2022, 1748 UTC »
99 % from the MW pirates are from NL. Some of them to hear outside NL.
Ray.... you can better make a chat speciale for MW ?

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2022, 1750 UTC »
I'm looking at the list of private stations - some are still very much "free radio" stations, albeit with a licence. Dutch stations like Piepzender & Delta are former pirates and still have a pirate attitude to broadcasting -  they don't follow a fixed schedule and have a pop/Dutch music format. Mike Radio was licensed for a while but then went back to being a pirate.

Then there's the pirates who hire airtime on big 100kW transmitters, like Studio 52, but also can be heard broadcasting with their own transmitter.

Other stations like Shortwave Service might be low power but many of their relays are of state broadcasters, so shouldn't be included.

I think there should be some flexibility as to what station logs are posted - I think if they are "free radio", whether pirate or not, they should be included.

I agree a separate area for Euro MW pirates would be good. Maybe if there was a separate section more people would post MW loggings. A number of the Dutch MW pirates are quite international with English IDs, high power, looking for reception reports on the Pirate Chat and sending out eQSLs.

This is a great forum and I visit it every day.

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2022, 1825 UTC »
All;

From my perspective, I favour the compartmentalization approach, the main reason being functionality based on what I listen to and wish to consult and/or log.

I for one routinely do not care about the licenced stations, or some of the other board topics for that matter, and as such with just one click of the mouse will use the "Mark Read" button to bulk mark the messages as read and clear their status flags. Combining topics within the same forum heading will greatly reduce that functionality and result in having to scan the topics in order to only read the ones that are of interest.

My philosophy is that what is established for North America should be mirrored for Europe. The end user should be able to frequent section(s) of interest with maximum ease and flexibility. I for one infrequently consult the European Pirate section other than for mainly "The Vault" as that signal does reach North America and my location so it is of interest to me. Most other European pirates do not reach and as such I mark them as read in bulk.

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I've also considered creating a second board specifically for European MW pirates ...
I personally do favour compartmentalization. Albeit these may turn out to be low traffic forums, if a user feels like trying to listen to European MW pirates, then the option is there and easy to get to. You may be surprised. As for one, I am totally surprised at the amount of readership and correspondence I have received about my static HFGCS Force Directional Message (FDM) and Emergency Action Message (EAM) Log. That steady and ever increasing readership is what keeps me posting and keeping this log active.

I like the HFU and its functionality which is the reason I joined it.

Thank you to Chris for funding it and keeping it alive and the moderators for keeping things sane and in the right forum location.

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2022, 1848 UTC »
Thanks to everyone for posting their suggestions on how to best organize loggings of the various stations we listen to.

We'll keep this thread going for as long as it takes to reach an overall consensus on what the organization of the related boards should be.

We should also keep in mind this is "just" a hobby, and the world will continue to go on no matter how we categorize radio stations. At the end of the day we all want to enjoy the hobby.  Also let's continue to keep this discussion polite and respectful. And be aware that not everyone is a native speaker of English, and sometimes the nuances of language can be misinterpreted.
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Re: About this forum
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2022, 2016 UTC »
IF IT ISNíT BROKEN DONíT FIX IT!!
Iím a relatively new user, I really don't see the point in messing with something thatís working fine.
Leave it alone, it great as it is.

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2022, 2115 UTC »
Perhaps the introduction of Child Boards such as the Broadcast Announcements one that is found under the Shortwave Pirate forum can be an option to consider. Even having a dedicated Broadcast Announcements child board under the European Pirates forum would benefit that community of operators. I do find the Broadcast Announcements very useful.

Rename Shortwave Pirate to North American Shortwave Pirates

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2022, 0857 UTC »
I echo NORMZ's post as things are fine as they are.

If anything I tire (yawn) of All the posts of legit stations and anything 'CB' related (yawn x2).

HFUNDERGROUND is the name of the forum.

Why not remove All the non underground stuff then?

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2022, 1340 UTC »
From a listener / user point of view. I believe this will be a step backwards. Users will now be in a mixed listing made up of stark polar opposites - licensed and unlicensed operators hammered together with no reference or indication as to what is what. The core information that many users require regarding the status of what they hear will neither be shown nor available. Very often the legality or lack of... is the most unique difference between various transmissions and the proposal is now to disregard this.

I would echo the comments of others in that consistency across the forum should be observed. I note the Shortwave Pirate section pertaining to US loggings does not list ďprivateĒ FCC licenced stations no matter how small or large it is uniquely made up of Pirate listings. I believe the European Pirate section should reflect this for continuity purposes and ease of use if nothing else...
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Re: About this forum
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2022, 1402 UTC »
Good afternoon.

 Legale pirate's list MW from NL below.

https://www.radio-tv-nederland.nl/am/am.html

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2022, 1456 UTC »
I echo NORMZ's post as things are fine as they are.

If anything I tire (yawn) of All the posts of legit stations and anything 'CB' related (yawn x2).

HFUNDERGROUND is the name of the forum.

Why not remove All the non underground stuff then?

This is a bad idea. The non underground sections of the forum can still be useful to the people who are interested in SWBC and other legal things on the shortwave spectrum. I have yet to find any other forum with a SWBC section that has as much activity and as many useful posts as the HFU. If you do not find legal transmissions interesting, then don’t visit that part of the forum! There are parts of this forum that are of no interest to me as well but I would never propose removing them just because I don’t like them. Also, I have edited my previous post on this thread and added some more ideas.
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Re: About this forum
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2022, 1551 UTC »
Perhaps the introduction of Child Boards such as the Broadcast Announcements one that is found under the Shortwave Pirate forum can be an option to consider. Even having a dedicated Broadcast Announcements child board under the European Pirates forum would benefit that community of operators. I do find the Broadcast Announcements very useful.

European Pirates
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I like this idea from SIGINT, works for me
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Re: About this forum
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2022, 1827 UTC »
Hope that we can do this for the North American sections for stations like WBCQ  and LPAM and LPFM fall in the same situation. Hard to tell if the station is pirate or not for a lot of LPAM which are legal to a degree over power their signal for more distance then they would a pirate station. There are a few LPAM stations that fall in this situation like The Valley 1620, The Edge 1620, and a few others MW AM stations that seem to be legal but are not.

What ever Chris does is okay but even in North America we have the same issues.

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Re: About this forum
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2022, 2208 UTC »
Eh hem..

Appreciate the effort BTW, Really..

I'm not overly concerned.

Everything's Fine..



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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2022, 2247 UTC »
I think this new change is going to throw people off  ???

Just like ebay, get used to one way and "hold up" lets change it and confuse everyone again.


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Re: About this forum
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2022, 0856 UTC »
I just hope one day everyone can live in "Radio Heaven" .  ;D
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