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Offline Robot Matrix

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Re: Web-888 Network SDR Now Available
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2025, 0636 UTC »
I think I'm going to pull the trigger on buying one of these from AliExpress, along with the GPS antenna. My Ham-it-up upcoverter is way too sensitive to temperature fluctuations and causes too much drift. I'll just use the NESDR SMART for VHF/UHF, which seems fine,  and maybe sell the upcoverter on ebay or something.  Perhaps the upcoverter would function better in a box, but I can't imagine it would make it that much more stable. You can literally hear the drift when tuned to WWV when the heater kicks on. Not good! I'll let you all know when I get the new SDR and I'll put it online.
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Re: Web-888 Network SDR Now Available
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2025, 0609 UTC »
I did order the WEB-888 from AliExpress. Says it shipped out on the 18th. It was cheaper than on eBay.... and all coming from China either way, as none of these units ship from the USA.

In preparation for this I bought an SD card and an active GPS antenna.

EDIT: Came in TODAY! I wasn't expecting this till Feb, but it arrived in 5 days. I wasn't ready for it as I haven't got all my parts in to assemble the new antenna I'm going to build for it. My ears don't hear well below 3-5 MHz as I'm using a TV 4:1 balun for my temporary dipole. I'll day this.. it's ACURATE!
« Last Edit: February 21, 2025, 0627 UTC by Robot Matrix »
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Re: Web-888 Network SDR Now Available
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2025, 0652 UTC »
So, I've tried a mobius loop antenna, which was way too quiet without a preamp. I settled on an inverted L, though I'm not sure a 9:1 unun is correct, given it's not a pure end fed antenna. I'm not sure you can make an L a broadband antenna. It is disturbing how much noise is present in the lower bands, like from 160-40m. But when it's clear,  it's CLEAR. I'm going to keep refining this as per numerous articles on this topic. I have HORRIBLE noise below 500kHz, which I suspect is from the dirty power supply and from the HVAC motors from my house and the neighbors'.

Aa far as the VHF tuning, I built a 1/4 wave groundplane centered on the phone portion of the aviation band, and it performed perfectly!

I'm VERY impressed with this SDR. I don't like how it's missing some features that the Kiwi has.  I'll leave that for another topic. But,  so far,  I'm pretty happy with this purchase.

Listen in sometime at http://75.134.33.242:8073/ . No guarantees that this IP address will always be valid,  but feel free to give me some feedback on the reception. Currently, I have it set up to do 0 to 30 MHz.
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Re: Web-888 Network SDR Now Available
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2025, 0134 UTC »
An inverted-L can be "broadband" in the sense a moderate-sized version can cover much of the HF spectrum. It is likely to also suffice at low frequencies since atmospheric noise swaps even relatively small antennas down there.

I would have to perhaps research it further, but IIRC, even an inverted-L at like 22' vertical by 22' horizontal or so actually shows decent lobes across a considerable swath of HF spectrum. Efficiency drops considerably at lower frequencies, but most receivers have plenty enough gain to offset the differences.

The 9:1 unun should suffice. Oftentimes it is often more about improving common-mode isolation than improved impedance matching for HF receiving antennas; withing reason of course. Considering it is an unun, you might want to experiment with an 1:1 galvanic isolation choke behind it if not already present. Also if just using a ground rod or similar, opting for a few on-ground radials might further improve efficiency.

VLF noise is a common issue even with a clean power supply and good galvanic isolation of the antenna. Unless you are perhaps in the middle of nowhere on a large rural plot, expect plenty of low-frequency noise these days.

That said I am in a neighborhood and often note plenty of NDBs plus even an occasional longwave broadcast, but reception of those tends to fair *much* better with my Airspy HF+D and 31' vertical. The HF+D has rather impressive dynamic range, selectivity, image rejection, etc. for a sub-$200 receiver.



Pending controversy over US government shortwave broadcasts aside, on a technical note, I can probably up amplification on my 148' LoG if Radio Marti discontinues on 6030. Right now it is my worst offender for overload here even with my 148' LoG well into negative gain numbers. o.0

My online SDRs are slightly down on the SNR charts for now. Awhile back I replaced my cheap preamp with the following:

https://www.sv1afn.com/en/product-category-5/high-linearity-pre-amp-(lna)-for-hf-receivers-30-khz-30-mhz.html

It is much cleaner overall, especially from an electrical noise standpoint, but it can sometimes overload a little when Radio Marti 6030 is on the air, even with currently (IIRC) 10dB attention on the input side. That attenuation tends to drop my SNR measurements by a few dB. Anyway.

Next I need to toss the current inexpensive active RF splitter for hopefully a little further signal cleanup. It appears somewhat electrically noisy at lower-HF and below. A passive splitter on a mix 73 binoc core for feeding my online SDRs should likely suffice for my purposes.



Speaking of preamps, I have a couple of inexpensive W7IUV-style preamps from AliExpress needing further evaluation. Not exactly a high-end preamp design compared to more modern designs, but the rather simple circuit is still quite popular. Naturally they have the usual cheap counterfeit 2N5109 transistors considering the low price point, but I have a few vintage (IIRC) RCA 2N5109 transistors available for swapping.
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