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No amateur station shall transmit music
« on: July 26, 2016, 1440 UTC »
On August 25, 2015, August 27, 2015, October 20, 2015, and October 22, 2015, agents of the Enforcement Bureau’s San Francisco Office and Portland Office monitored amateur radio Station N6PJB located in Burney, California, and observed the following violation(s):

a. 47 C.F.R. § 97.101(d): “No amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal.”
In response to an interference complaint, during the time of monitoring stated above, the FCC Agents, using radio direction finding techniques, located the source of the interfering signal on frequency 3908 kHz to Beaudet’s residence in Burney, California.

b. 47 C.F.R. § 97.113(d)(4): “ No amateur station shall transmit music.” During the referenced time of monitoring stated above, the FCC Agents observed and recorded that Beaudet’s amateur radio station was transmitting music on frequency 3908 kHz.

c. 47 C.F.R. § 97. 119(a): “Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station, must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communication, for the purpose of clearly making the source of the transmissions from station known to those receiving the transmissions. No station may transmit unidentified communications or signals, or transmit as the station call sign, any call sign not authorized to the station.” During the time of monitoring stated above, the FCC Agents monitored and recorded that Beaudet’s amateur radio station did not transmit the assigned call sign, N6PJB, at the end at each communication.

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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2016, 1509 UTC »
Reading this as I listen to V24 on the Hong Kong SDR at globaltuners. I figure that the ban on music transmission by amateurs may be rationalized by the virtual inability to collect royalties from amateurs, among other exaggerated concerns. V24 always begins a transmission with a popular K-POP song, and I've wondered if the artists are aware that it's happening and (more facetiously) whether they're getting paid anything for it.
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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2016, 0120 UTC »
That's why many pirates don't have ham licenses. Dejure it puts you out of the FCC's reach, defacto it doesn't, but that's what lawyers are for.

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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2016, 0212 UTC »
I figure that the ban on music transmission by amateurs may be rationalized by the virtual inability to collect royalties from amateurs, among other exaggerated concerns.

The ban on music transmission goes back to before airtime royalties were a thing.  Remember that ham radio service is not an entertainment service, and is not in place to compete with commercial radio services or circumvent the processes in place for those services.  At the most basic level, hams have no business or reason to transmit music.

V24 always begins a transmission with a popular K-POP song, and I've wondered if the artists are aware that it's happening and (more facetiously) whether they're getting paid anything for it.

It currently is on a trend of using K-Pop as music, it changes styles periodically.  In the past it has used everything from North Korean martial to western rock.  I would venture the KCIA (or whoever runs the transmissions) did not pay Dire Straights when they were using Sultans of Swing ;)

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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2016, 0237 UTC »
Thanks for the info as always Token!
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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 1338 UTC »
Some of those funky JT65 tones I hear on Amateur radio sure sound like some of the experimental synth tunes that are going down these days...  Heck I've even made some of those same tunes on my Synth...

Define music these days...  can it really be done?  And a lot of modern music sounds like a CQ DX Pig Pile

   ;D  just sayin' you all...

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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2016, 2015 UTC »
While doing sstv on 40m with the gang, I mentioned I had an mp3 of haarp in action and they asked me to send it, so I did. Don't think it qualified as music.
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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2016, 0516 UTC »
There have been a few club dj's that sampled SW weirdness. I once got a tape from a indy label in the UK using various announcements and tones over generated multitrack beats.

The Art of Noise was experimenting with a lot of that stuff in the early/mid 80's. Any machine or noise source that kicks out a rhythm in it's operation can be used for lots of fun. If you're good no one will ever know what the heck it is and start moving, thus proving the Dead Milkmen's axiom, "You'll Dance To Anything". I've seen people dance to a looped sample of dot matrix printer as the main beat.

I miss the Milkmen. They hated the Smiths more than I did.

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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2016, 2028 UTC »
The Smiths...   bleeeeeeeccccchhhhh!

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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2016, 2212 UTC »
I'll throw my lot in with The Smiths. Just for fairness and balance.  ;D
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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2016, 0509 UTC »
Josh, you would post their whiniest song to stick in my head. FANCO now has it's eyes on you. Thank God Tipper Gore was able to pass the Anti-Morrisey Act of 1989.

Mojo Nixon and The Toadliquors cover of "Girlfriend In a Coma" was magical. That alone proves the Smiths could write decent songs, but didn't have the chops to pull them off. It takes a real artiste' like Mojo Nixon to perform them. A man has to have a deep He-Man voice to do anything in public life. That's why Al always has me voice "Radio Al Fansome." He sounds sort of like Howard Sprague from the old "Andy Griffith Show."

MDK2, are you one of my admirers come out of my past to haunt me? If so, Colorado has some unique produce you can send me. I'm having uncontrollable earlobe spasms from the Smith's song Josh posted.

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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2016, 1336 UTC »
I love Mojo Nixon. I was probably the only kid in my high school who had the first two Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper albums. I got to see him at Bumbershoot in Seattle in 1999 (?) and he was so filthy and funny that I knew he wouldn't be asked to return.

Anyway, if you mean Palisade peaches, you better come and get 'em yourself. They just hit the shelves.
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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2016, 1948 UTC »
Tipper was HOT HOT HOT!


Also, what did she see in a man who's obviously made of wood?



Also also, as an 80s freak here's some more Morrisey goodness;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0LeL9BUPtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvuweztG4Q
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Re: No amateur station shall transmit music
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2016, 1630 UTC »
Tipper was HOT HOT HOT!


Also, what did she see in a man who's obviously made of wood?



Also also, as an 80s freak here's some more Morrisey goodness;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0LeL9BUPtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvuweztG4Q

"Also, what did she see in a man who's obviously made of wood?"

Perhaps he has a big splinter?  Ahhhh...  I'm sure that's not true but he sure has Nutz for spreading guano like he does...   But he buys 'Little Man Condoms" from China and I am glad he does because we already have more than we need of him!  He is so confused.

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