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Other / Re: 7000 LSB - possible Brazilian pescadore activity
« on: August 31, 2012, 1503 UTC »
Ooops, I made a mistake on an earlier post.

The sound file I thought was Sealord's was actually Lex's 7000USB "Pesque Madness" 11-17-08 1337z Mp3.  That sound clip is eerily similar to what I heard on 8/28, including the didgeridoo like chanting in the background -- and the speech and chatter sounds similar.

I think I got it confused with Sealord's April 23, 2011 sound clip because I tried to get that one to load and had trouble loading it....

But the newest one Sealord posted, the Brazillian Pirates 7000LSB 1130z-1143z 3-04-11 also sounds a lot like what I've heard.

I have found a couple files on Youtube that are also similar:

this one from a guy in Australia who calls them "lima pirates" because they chant 'lima' 'lima' 'lima':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1J5FQ_IduQ&feature=related

This one a guy (also from Australia) calls the "Indonesian horse races":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWsNvR80xk

There's some others on Youtube I haven't checked out yet, and I still need to check out some of the other sound files here.

It's possible this chanting thing isn't confined to one particular part of the world.




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Other / Re: 7000 LSB - possible Brazilian pescadore activity
« on: August 31, 2012, 1329 UTC »
I'm wondering whether we're hearing different regions on the same frequency, depending on our own locations?  A fellow who speaks Portuguese listened to my recordings from 2008 or 2009 and confirmed those did sound like Brazilian radio operators.  Here in Texas I can often pick up Central and South America very well but rarely hear any Asian stations.  The last time I heard any 40m Asian amateur stations clearly was around 2007-2008 when propagation was still very good.

I think you're right.  Where I live it's closer to Asia -- whereas in Texas you're much closer to Latin America.

On some of those IARU logs on their website, where hams are monitoring ham band pirates and intruders, they seem to hear more of these guys from different regions depending on where they are located.

6999-7000 khz and thereabouts may be some sort of 'freeband' in various parts of the world.

708
Other / Re: 7000 LSB - possible Brazilian pescadore activity
« on: August 31, 2012, 1125 UTC »
This is really interesting!

I checked the IARU Region 3 Monitoring System Newsletter (http://www.iaru-r3.org/ms/r3msnl.htm), and it turns out these stations are indeed Asian – or Indonesian to be precise (I see on Wikipedia that they speak Malay in Indonesia). The newsletter calls it 'village radio'. Fascinating!

Thanks for that link.  After doing some web research on the Indonesian chanting last night I found the IARU region 1 site, wasn't aware of the Region 3. The Region 1 monitors in Europe heard this also, but didn't call it "village radio", they just said it was Indonesian pirates, and one monitor referred to it as "whining?"

I also noticed, looking over some of those Region 3 logs, most of the loggings of the 'village radio' transmissions were done by VK4TJ.  And he was hearing them around 0900.  The weird stuff we're hearing is around 1200-1300, maybe it's a different thing, maybe the same thing and it's after his monitoring period...

I wonder what "village radio" is.

[edited -- got region #'s wrong]

709
Equipment / Re: What Radio Did you start your listening hobby with?
« on: August 30, 2012, 1330 UTC »
North Korea's Korean broadcasts are interesting enough.  The music is fascinating.  Lots of strings and what sounds like a Lowry organ -- along with a pretty good bass player.... the James Jamerson of Pyongyang.

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Other / Re: 7000 LSB - possible Brazilian pescadore activity
« on: August 30, 2012, 0800 UTC »
Rather than start a complete new thread, I thought I'd add my comments to this one as I've been hearing this stuff also.

First off, although I'm not a language expert, I think the language, at least in Sealord's recording (and in the stuff I've heard between 6999 - 7020 khz around 1200 utc - 1400 utc), is Tagalog or Malay, and I think a lot of these transmissions are coming from SE Asia, because the transmissions seem to match the propagation.

I've noticed guys chattering away around 6999 khz since 2002, when I first heard it.  

It would always start up around 1200 - 1300 utc or so, depending on whenever propagation to Asia really opened up on the 40 meter ham band.  The transmissions would last until the Asian broadcast stations just above the 40 meter ham band started fading out, and they generally faded out around the same time.

I didn't hear the heavy duty chanting until a few days ago when I heard a racket going on at 7019 khz, and it went on for at least 20 minutes or more.  The signals spread across a couple khz of spectrum, and there was just one ham trying to call CQ in that portion of the 40 meter CW band before he just gave up.

The chanting sounded like 5-10 guys all shouting into their mikes at once.  Nga Nga Nga, DaNam DaNam DaNam DaNam, etc.  It struck me as if they were trying to drive CW hams off the frequency.  But maybe they do it for some other reason.

I have just listened to the recording that Sealord posted, and the chanting I heard sounded a lot like that, and the speech during the non-chanting portions of the recording is similar to the speech I have heard.  And it sounds to me like Tagalog or Malay.  If it is coming from SE Asia, the inclusion of some English words would be natural, because English is taught in Philippine and Malaysian schools.

I have heard transmissions in Mexican Spanish on these frequencies, but it's usually around 0000 utc - 0500 utc or later.  Around 1200 utc or later I usually just hear the Asian-sounding stuff.

It's a bit curious that I never see much reference to these transmissions on any of the publicly viewable ham radio forums.

PS -- Thanks for posting that mp3, Sealord.  It's a good recording of one of the strangest things I've heard on the shortwaves....

[Edit: Woops. The clip I was referring to was the "7000LSB, 11/17/08, 1330-1400 UTC" one posted by Lex.  Got the links confused.]



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HF Beacons / Re: russian naval beacons
« on: August 30, 2012, 0617 UTC »
Thanks for the information, Ary.  It's much appreciated. 

There are sure a lot of strange things that seem to happen in the 7 mhz range, and I hadn't heard any of those single letter beacons until earlier this summer.  Probably just didn't pay that much attention to the CW portion of the 40 meter band, I guess.

73
Boombox

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Utility / Re: 8602:UNID CW station (spanish)
« on: August 30, 2012, 0614 UTC »
Just found this thread, as I'm new here...

I see references to Montevideo and La Plata in the message.  Montevideo is the capital (and chief port) of Uruguay, and it's located on the Rio De La Plata.  My guess is your mystery station is either in South America or had something to do with South America.

713
Equipment / Re: how can i in-hanse my long wire performance
« on: August 29, 2012, 1545 UTC »
i have a 200' long wire and was wondering what i could do to get better performance from my receiver's. i'm using a RS dx394,RS dx302 and a icom R71a

200 ft. is a fair chunk of wire, especially on shortwave, where an antenna that long can start to become directional (you can get a cloverleaf pattern when the length of the antenna is over a wavelength long).

Maybe re-orienting the antenna you already have would bring in more stations from the areas of the world you want to hear.

I've never tried a large loop but have read about them and there are people who swear by them.  That also sounds like a good idea.

714
Equipment / Re: POLL: What type of antenna do you use?
« on: August 29, 2012, 1450 UTC »
For SW, I use an indoor random wire.  I had an outdoor 100 ft. wire but it blew down a few years ago, and the tree had to be removed soon afterwards.  I recently strung a low 150 ft. wire, but right now that's still an experiment.

For MW, I use a Radio Shack loop, a Select-A-Tenna, and a 2 ft. homemade spiral loop (with a 4 ft. spiral loop in storage).

715
HF Beacons / Re: russian naval beacons
« on: August 29, 2012, 1423 UTC »
I'm new here, found this forum after doing a search on these beacons.  I kept hearing some of them in the CW portion of the 40 meter ham band.  I guess no one really knows what exact purpose these beacons serve?

On 8/28 logged the "K" beacon on 7039 khz, 1501-1549 utc., along with a lot of guys chanting something in Tagalog or Malay. 

I also heard three or four single character beacons on 7039-7040 khz (my DX-398 only has one khz readout) on 8/21, around 1336 utc: "K", "F", "M", and what sounded like an "O" also.  From doing a bit of net research, it seems there is no "O" on 7039.  Maybe it was a misread.  There were also a bunch of dudes chatting away in Tagalog on and near that frequency.

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Nice catch, Chanter.  I don't hear them very often here in the NW US, but they will sometimes overpower KCVR Lodi Calif., esp. during auroral conditions.  Both stations are Spanish speaking, but they have quite different formats.

One thing to listen for around 1150-1200 utc (if you ever DX that early in the a.m. your time) is XERF's "servicio social", which appears to be a series of free advertisements they do, and a man's voice mentions that phrase often.  It's one way to ID their signal out west, and it may also help if there are other stations competing with their signal where you live.

Re: QSL: it might be worth a try.  They seem to have a decent web presence.

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